Our Earth VS an Evangelion

[T51R]

What it says.

We as a civilization are facing down an S2-engine equipped weapon of mass destruction from another world; a bio-engineered humanoid fighting machine which was built to literally cause a biblical apocalypse! Its an Evangelion, and fortunately, there's only one.

The bad news?

Its Kaoru's unit, Unit XIII, piloted by Mari and Asuka, fully armed and fully armoured!

And its here to send us back not to the stone age, but to the primordial soup!

Can we defeat a single Eva?

[The Drunkard Kid]

What it says.

We as a civilization are facing down an S2-engine equipped weapon of mass destruction from another world; a bio-engineered humanoid fighting machine which was built to literally cause a biblical apocalypse! Its an Evangelion, and fortunately, there's only one.

The bad news?

Its Kaoru's unit, Unit XIII, piloted by Mari and Asuka, fully armed and fully armoured!

And its here to send us back not to the stone age, but to the primordial soup!

Can we defeat a single Eva?

Well, we might last long enough for the pilots to starve or age to death, since they don't really have a huge amount in the way of AOEs and sensors, or any way of rearming once they run out of bullets/missiles.

[Carabas]

I'm only familiar with the original, but strictly speaking, Evas don't need pilots. The pilot's main function seems to be to keep the damn things from going completely berserk, with mixed results.

[Mari]

From what has been seen on the series and the rebuild, the only way to stop the Evangelion is to stop the pilots. Somehow cause Mari and Asuka to not want to destroy the earth.

Earth forces have fired various weaponry at Angels and not damaged them at all. Evas are usually stronger than the Angels.

[Carabas]

From what has been seen on the series and the rebuild, the only way to stop the Evangelion is to stop the pilots. Somehow cause Mari and Asuka to not want to destroy the earth.

Stop the pilots as in talk them down and make them see reason. Killing them would probably just get you a really pissed off EVA.

[The MunchKING]

I've only read the first books, but didn't the EVAs only have a like 5 minute Battery life when not hooked up to an entire city's power-grid or whatever?

SO yeah five minutes later we should be only slightly worse for wear.

Otherwise they might have a bit of trouble, as they tried using non-nuclear landmines with all the FORCE of a nuke in the first bits against AT fields and it did Jack-shit.

So while MOAB might be more than whatever they had in the comic I doubt it's enough to take an EVA out...

[Mari]

Stop the pilots as in talk them down and make them see reason. Killing them would probably just get you a really pissed off EVA.

It's possible to disable the pilot, such as when the dummy plug took over Unit 01 and Unit 01 took out Asuka from Unit 03. But it would require the earth having an EVA to do that.

I've only read the first books, but didn't the EVAs only have a like 5 minute Battery life when not hooked up to an entire city's power-grid or whatever?

SO yeah five minutes later we should be only slightly worse for wear.

Otherwise they might have a bit of trouble, as they tried using non-nuclear landmines with all the FORCE of a nuke in the first bits against AT fields and it did Jack-shit.

So while MOAB might be more than whatever they had in the comic I doubt it's enough to take an EVA out...

Mari is capable of making the EVA go to beast mode which is unlimited power.

You should watch the rebuild movies!

[The MunchKING]

Mari is capable of making the EVA go to beast mode which is unlimited power.

You should watch the rebuild movies!

I seem to remember you telling me to do that before...

[heretic]

Can we defeat a single Eva?

No power limitations on it's part? Even if it runs out of ammunition it cannot be slowed down by anything this side of a nuke and it will just take longer to level everything in it's path. If Mari and Asuka are not talked down we are more than kind of hosed.

[Carabas]

I've only read the first books, but didn't the EVAs only have a like 5 minute Battery life when not hooked up to an entire city's power-grid or whatever?

Having an S2 engine removes that limitation. And we've seen a completely powered down Unit 01 with no means of getting power, connected to nothing, still kick some serious ass.

[The Chou Lives]

We're screwed.

[Mari]

Having an S2 engine removes that limitation. And we've seen a completely powered down Unit 01 with no means of getting power, connected to nothing, still kick some serious ass.

And Mari is capable of Beast mode as seen in Evangelion 2.0.

[Melchior]

Beast mode is simply running with additional limiters off. An EVA's armor functions as restraints on the organism within, and Beast mode releases those. Furthermore, there is no data supporting Unit 13 has that mode built-in, though that might be hand-waved in this case (Mari did not go Beast with Unit 05, for example, which implies it might be a Production Model feature). Unit 13 has the standard AT Field, a dual-pilot capability, a pair of bits (not quite funnels), an extra pair of arms, and according to the opening, an S2 Engine. The pilots have never demonstrated Halo or flight capabilities, either. Berserker is unlikely without either one of their parent's in the Unit, as well.

As it is, I see one of two resolutions.

The first - Unit 13 rampages a bit, and the world decides to nuke it death. Hard to do? Yes. Possible? Also yes. Conventional weapons can get past an AT Field, it just takes a ton of power. I imagine that no one will be living on the site for a couple thousand years.

The second - The filters on the LCL fluid give out somewhere between 16-24 hours, going by the episodes with the 12th Angel. The pilots will literally choke to death in a prolonged engagement, or will have to exit the Unit in order to clear things out. In which case, observers can key in attacks.

Without Lances or another similiar being, they cannot actually initiate an Impact, so while they can tear up wherever they land, they cannot simply end human existance. Then you run into the fact that there is a limit to how far an EVA can travel in a day, and the filters for the equipment, and so I think it is safe to say that after a day or two the situation will sort itself out. Without flight, they are not pulling hit-and-runs off on more than country-wide scales.

While an EVA is capable of some autonomous action, it tends to stop after the immediate threat is gone, so there should be little worry of a continuous rampage.

[T51R]

Beast mode is simply running with additional limiters off. An EVA's armor functions as restraints on the organism within, and Beast mode releases those. Furthermore, there is no data supporting Unit 13 has that mode built-in, though that might be hand-waved in this case (Mari did not go Beast with Unit 05, for example, which implies it might be a Production Model feature). Unit 13 has the standard AT Field, a dual-pilot capability, a pair of bits (not quite funnels), an extra pair of arms, and according to the opening, an S2 Engine. The pilots have never demonstrated Halo or flight capabilities, either. Berserker is unlikely without either one of their parent's in the Unit, as well.

As it is, I see one of two resolutions.

The first - Unit 13 rampages a bit, and the world decides to nuke it death. Hard to do? Yes. Possible? Also yes. Conventional weapons can get past an AT Field, it just takes a ton of power. I imagine that no one will be living on the site for a couple thousand years.

The second - The filters on the LCL fluid give out somewhere between 16-24 hours, going by the episodes with the 12th Angel. The pilots will literally choke to death in a prolonged engagement, or will have to exit the Unit in order to clear things out. In which case, observers can key in attacks.

Without Lances or another similiar being, they cannot actually initiate an Impact, so while they can tear up wherever they land, they cannot simply end human existance. Then you run into the fact that there is a limit to how far an EVA can travel in a day, and the filters for the equipment, and so I think it is safe to say that after a day or two the situation will sort itself out. Without flight, they are not pulling hit-and-runs off on more than country-wide scales.

While an EVA is capable of some autonomous action, it tends to stop after the immediate threat is gone, so there should be little worry of a continuous rampage.

So, not as bad as a Godzilla attack?

[Melchior]

So, not as bad as a Godzilla attack?

Probably not, no. Godzilla is closer to an Angel attack. It can fight for long periods of time, and if hurt or tired or hungry, retreat and recoup itself. An EVA is specifically hamstrung so that it needs support personnel and pilots in order to keep itself going. And the pilots are very squishy compared to it, and cannot simply hide in the EVA for the entire duration.