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    Hi,

    Does anyone have a list of post-crisis Batman family comics?

    It would include all the bat-heroes, catwoman, robin etc. and all their miniseries and bat-crossovers.

    (Not including JLA or appearances in other titles)

    Many Thanks!

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    Most of what you're looking for would be collected as crossovers:

    - Batman: Knightfall Vols 1-3
    - Batman: Cataclysm, Road to No Man's Land Vols. 1-2, No Man's Land Vols. 1-4
    - Batman: Murderer/Fugitive
    - Batman: War Games

    There was also a Devin Grayson-written series called Gotham Knights that followed the Batfamily as a unit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolverine7230 View Post
    Hi,

    Does anyone have a list of post-crisis Batman family comics?

    It would include all the bat-heroes, catwoman, robin etc. and all their miniseries and bat-crossovers.

    (Not including JLA or appearances in other titles)

    Many Thanks!

    wolverine
    No, no one site lists all the comics for all the family for the ENTIRE post-COIE pre-Flashpoint period.

    But this site's chronology function is the closest to what you want:
    http://www.dcindexes.com/features/chronology.php
    Last edited by JBatmanFan05; 10-08-2015 at 12:21 PM.
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    OK guys,

    Thanks for the responses so far!

    By the looks of it, I'll have to do it myself, which is fine. After I've done that I intend to re-read it all and then make a reading order/chronology after I've got a hold of the material I'm missing!

    Many thanks,

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolverine7230 View Post
    OK guys,

    Thanks for the responses so far!

    By the looks of it, I'll have to do it myself, which is fine. After I've done that I intend to re-read it all and then make a reading order/chronology after I've got a hold of the material I'm missing!

    Many thanks,

    wolverine
    Good luck. To properly order it all, by chronological order, which for most comics (not all!) will be publication order.....you will be facing a long tedious task. Not mention addressing complex chronology issues about various stories.

    With ALL the titles ALL of the Batfam was in....it's A SUPER LOT. If you don't have a ton already, it will cost you a small fortune.

    Just making sure you know what you're getting into. Bruce has had many titles, many minis, many one-shots.....Dick was a Titan...Babs was in various titles....Tim was in a ton of titles. Gordon-focused titles. So many small forgotten one shots and minis....so very very many from 1986 to 2011.


    I do this kind of ordering myself and rely on 10 or more websites to try to make sure I cover it all. Just to identify stuff, I haven't even begun to order it all yet, which is crazy challenging and requires long patient research.
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    Grant Morrison: “Adults...struggle desperately with fiction, demanding constantly that it conform to the rules of everyday life. Adults foolishly demand to know how Superman can possibly fly, or how Batman can possibly run a multibillion-dollar business empire during the day and fight crime at night, when the answer is obvious even to the smallest child: because it's not real.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBatmanFan05 View Post
    Good luck. To properly order it all, by chronological order, which for most comics (not all!) will be publication order.....you will be facing a long tedious task. Not mention addressing complex chronology issues about various stories.

    With ALL the titles ALL of the Batfam was in....it's A SUPER LOT. If you don't have a ton already, it will cost you a small fortune.

    Just making sure you know what you're getting into. Bruce has had many titles, many minis, many one-shots.....Dick was a Titan...Babs was in various titles....Tim was in a ton of titles. Gordon-focused titles. So many small forgotten one shots and minis....so very very many from 1986 to 2011.


    I do this kind of ordering myself and rely on 10 or more websites to try to make sure I cover it all. Just to identify stuff, I haven't even begun to order it all yet, which is crazy challenging and requires long patient research.
    Trust me, I know what I'm getting into. I intend to start with just batman titles and fan out from there. It's still a lot but nowhere near as many.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolverine7230 View Post
    Trust me, I know what I'm getting into. I intend to start with just batman titles and fan out from there. It's still a lot but nowhere near as many.
    When you say "just Batman titles", what are you considering just a "Batman title"? Even that would seem like a hell of a lot of effort.

    (And by the way, when you do this, don't forget about Showcase '93 and Showcase '94, where a rotating Bat-character was the lead feature.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MajorHoy View Post
    When you say "just Batman titles", what are you considering just a "Batman title"? Even that would seem like a hell of a lot of effort.

    (And by the way, when you do this, don't forget about Showcase '93 and Showcase '94, where a rotating Bat-character was the lead feature.)
    When I say Batman title, I mean books featuring Bruce Wayne as the main character. So Batman, Legends of the Dark Knight, Shadow of the Bat, Batman Chronicles etc.

    Thanks for reminding me about Showcase.

    I will be working on the list over the next few days, and will start the order in a few weeks. I can post it here if anyone would be interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolverine7230 View Post

    I will be working on the list over the next few days, and will start the order in a few weeks. I can post it here if anyone would be interested.

    wolverine
    Yea, post it here. Can you include the release date (not cover date, but release date) if you use that as the basis for its placement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBatmanFan05 View Post
    Yea, post it here. Can you include the release date (not cover date, but release date) if you use that as the basis for its placement.
    I won't include the release date, as I won't be using that as how I structure the project:

    Essentially, what I intend to do is sort out when each bat-crossover happens (Knightfall, No Man's Land etc) and then map out which issues of each bat title take place as part of that event. Then, in between events, I'll work through each Batman series, creating the order as I go. Before I start the next crossover, I'll re-read it all to check it makes sense. As for LoDK, I'll just sift out all the 'Year One' stuff and do that (and all the other Year One stuff) first, to get it out of the way. Then, in the far future, I'll just read through the entirety of each Batman family series, and place it on the order that way.

    As for non-bat-centric books, I may include some, like Teen Titans, Suicide Squad, and maybe I'll eventually include non-Batman Gotham based series and guest appearances in other titles, but who knows.

    Maybe even one day, I'll even create a new version converted from the chronological reading order to a full-scale day-by-day chronology (inc. flashbacks etc).

    If you're wondering what drives me to do this, I'm not a huge fan of the New 52 Batman. I mean, I read it, but it's not great, and there's not enough of it to fill my time. So I decided to undertake in this project because I have way too much spare time. And if I have spare time, why not enjoy it? Music/TV while reading comics and writing a detailed reading order, what's not to like?

    Also, if you see anything incorrect in the order (when I get to it), please tell me.

    Many thanks!

    wolverine

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    Also, just a quick question:

    I know that a bunch of pre-crisis stuff is part of the post-crisis canon, so does anyone have a list of which of the pre-crisis issues are generally regarded as canon?

    Many Thanks!

    wolverine

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    OK, I have begun the list of ongoing series. The only problem I encountered was with Batman and the Outsiders/Adventures of the Outsiders/Outsiders (all v1), as there is no clear distinction between pre and post crisis.

    Anyway, here it is:

    Anarky (1999) #1-8
    Azrael (1995) #1-100, 1000000
    • Annual #1-3
    Azrael (2009) #1-18
    Batgirl (2000) #1-73
    • Annual #1
    Batgirl (2009) #1-24
    Batman (1940) #0, 401-713, 1000000
    • 80-Page Giant #1-3
    • Annual #9-28
    Batman Adventures (2003) #1-17
    Batman and Robin (2009) #1-26
    Batman and the Outsiders (2007) #1-40
    Batman Chronicles (1995) #1-23
    Batman Confidential (2006) #1-54
    Batman: Gotham Knights (2000) #1-74
    Batman Incorporated (2011) #1-9
    Batman Incorporated (2012) #1-13
    Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight (1989) #0, 1-214
    • Annual #1-7
    Batman: Shadow of the Bat (1992) #0, 1-94, 1000000
    • Annual #1-5
    Batman: Streets of Gotham (2009) #1-21
    Batman: The Dark Knight (2011) #1-5
    Birds of Prey (1999) #1-127
    Birds of Prey (2010) #1-15
    Catwoman (1993) #0, 1-94
    • Annual #1-4
    Catwoman (2002) #1-83
    Detective Comics (1939) #568-881
    • Annual #1-12
    Gotham Central (2003) #1-40
    Gotham City Sirens (2009) #1-26
    Harley Quinn (2000) #1-38
    Huntress (1989) #1-19
    Nightwing (1996) #1/2, 1-153, 1000000
    • Annual #1-2
    Outsiders (1993) #0, 1α, 1Ω, 2-24
    Outsiders (2003) #1-50
    • Annual #1
    Red Robin (2009) #1-26
    Robin (1993) #0, 1-183, 1000000
    • Annual #1-7
    Robin + ____ (1996) #1-2
    Superman/Batman (2003) #1-87
    • Annual #1-5


    Any comments would be appreciated. Mini-series coming soon!

    Many thanks!

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    Mini-Series:

    All-Star Batman and Robin, The Boy Wonder (2005) #10
    Anarky (1997) #1-4
    Arkham Asylum: Living Hell (2003) #1-6
    Arkham Reborn (2009) #1-3
    Azrael: Death’s Dark Knight (2009) #1-3
    Batgirl (2008) #1-6
    Batgirl: Year One (2003) #1-9
    Batman: Bane of the Demon (1998) #1-4
    Batman: Battle for the Cowl (2009) #1-3
    Batman: Black and White (1996) #1-4
    Batman: Cacophony (2009) #1-3
    Batman/Catwoman: Trail of the Gun (2004) #1-2
    Batman: City of Light (2003) #1-8
    Batman: Dark Detective (2005) #1-6
    Batman: Dark Victory (1999) #0, 1-13
    Batman/Deathblow: After the Fire (2002) #1-3
    Batman: Death and the Maidens (2003) #1-9
    Batman: Death Mask (2008) #1-4
    Batman: Family (2002) #1-8
    Batman: Gates of Gotham (2011) #1-5
    Batman: GCPD (1996) #1-4
    Batman: Gordon’s Law (1996) #1-4
    Batman: Gordon of Gotham (1998) #1-4
    Batman: Gotham After Midnight (2008) #1-12
    Batman: Gotham County Line (2005) #1-3
    Batman: Gotham Nights (1992) #1-4
    Batman: Gotham Nights II (1995) #1-4
    Batman: Harley and Ivy (2004) #1-3
    Batman: Haunted Gotham (2000) #1-4
    Batman/Huntress: Cry for Blood (2000) #1-6
    Batman: Jekyll and Hyde (2005) #1-6
    Batman: Joker Time (2000) #1-3
    Batman: Journey Into Knight (2005) #1-12
    Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight – Jazz (1995) #1-3
    Batman/Lobo: Deadly Serious (2007) #1-2
    Batman: Man-Bat (1995) #1-3
    Batman: No Man’s Land #0, 1
    Batman: Odyssey (2010) #1-6
    Batman: Odyssey (2011) #1-7
    Batman: Orphans (2011) #1-2
    Batman: Orpheus Rising (2001) #1-5
    Batman: Outlaws (2000) #1-3
    Batman/Ra’s al Ghul: Year One (2005) #1-2
    Batman: Run, Riddler, Run (1992) #1-3
    Batman/Scarecrow: Year One (2005) #1-2
    Batman: Secrets (2006) #1-5
    Batman/Superman: World’s Finest (1999) #1-10
    Batman/Superman/Wonder Woman: Trinity (2003) #1-3
    Batman: Sword of Azrael (1992) #1-4
    Batman: Tenses (2003) #1-2
    Batman: The Ankh (2001) #1-2
    Batman: The Cult (1988) #1-4
    Batman: The Long Halloween (1996) #1-13
    Batman: The Return of Bruce Wayne (2010) #1-6
    Batman: The Ultimate Evil (1995) #1-2
    Batman: The Widening Gyre (2009) #1-6
    Batman: Toyman (1998) #1-4
    Batman: Turning Points (2001) #1-5
    Batman: Two-Face Strikes Twice! (1993) #1-2
    Batman: Unseen (2009) #1-5
    Batman/Wildcat (1997) #1-3
    Birds of Prey: Manhunt (1996) #1-4
    Blackest Night: Batman (2009) #1-3
    Catwoman: Guardian of Gotham (1999) #1-2
    Catwoman: Her Sister’s Keeper (1989) #1-4
    Catwoman: When in Rome (2004) #1-6
    Catwoman/Wildcat (1998) #1-4
    Dark Moon Rising: Batman and the Mad Monk (2006) #1-6
    Dark Moon Rising: Batman and the Monster Men (2005) #1-6
    Flashpoint: Batman – Knight of Vengeance (2011) #1-3
    Gotham Girls (2002) #1-5
    Gotham Underground (2007) #1-9
    Huntress (1994) #1-4
    Huntress: Year One (2008) #1-6
    Joker: Last Laugh (2001) #1-6
    Legends of the World’s Finest (1994) #1-3
    Man-Bat (1996) #1-3
    Man-Bat (2006) #1-5
    Nightwing (1995) #1-4
    Nightwing/Huntress (1998) #1-4
    Oracle: The Cure (2009) #1-3
    Red Hood: The Lost Days (2010) #1-6
    Robin (1991) #1-5
    Robin II (1991) #1-4
    Robin III: Cry of the Huntress (1992) #1-6
    Robin 3000 (1992) #1-2
    Robin: Year One (2000) #1-4
    Superboy/Robin: World’s Finest Three (1996) #1-2
    Superman/Batman vs. Vampires/Werewolves (2008) #1-6
    World’s Finest (1990) #1-3
    World’s Finest (2009) #1-4

    There is all sorts of stuff that's canon is debatable in there. If there's anything in there that 100% isn't canon and I've added accidentally, please notify me. Similarly, I'm sure there's plenty I've missed.

    Many Thanks!

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    Arkham Asylum: Madness (2010) #1
    Azrael + ___ (1996) #1
    Batgirl: Secret Files and Origins (2002) #1
    Batgirl Special (1988) #1
    Batman + ___ (1997) #1
    Batman: 80-Page Giant 2009 (2009) #1
    Batman: 80-Page Giant 2010 (2010) #1
    Batman: 80-Page Giant 2011 (2011) #1
    Batman: A Word to the Wise (1992) #1
    Batman: Absolution (2002) #1
    Batman: Allies – Secret Files and Origins 2005 (2005) #1
    Batman and the Outsiders Special (2009) #1
    Batman: Arkham Asylum – Tales of Madness (1998) #1
    Batman: Bane (1997) #1
    Batman: Batgirl (1997) #1
    Batman: Batgirl (1998) #1
    Batman: Battle for the Cowl – Arkham Asylum (2009) #1
    Batman: Battle for the Cowl – Commissioner Gordon (2009) #1
    Batman: Battle for the Cowl – Man-Bat (2009) #1
    Batman: Battle for the Cowl – The Network (2009) #1
    Batman: Battle for the Cowl – The Underground (2009) #1
    Batman: Birth of the Demon (1992) #1
    Batman: Blackgate (1997) #1
    Batman: Blackgate – Isle of Men (1998) #1
    Batman: Bride of the Demon (1990) #1
    Batman: Bullock’s Law (1999) #1
    Batman: Catwoman Defiant (1992) #1
    Batman/Catwoman: Follow the Money (2011) #1
    Batman: Child of Dreams (2003) #1
    Batman Chronicles: The Gauntlet (1997) #1
    Batman/Danger Girl (2005) #1
    Batman: Day of Judgement (1999) #1
    Batman/Deadman: Death and Glory (1996) #1
    Batman: Death by Design (2012) #1
    Batman: Death of Innocents (1996) #1
    Batman/Demon (1996) #1
    Batman: D.O.A. (1999) #1
    Batman/Doc Savage Special (2010) #1
    Batman: Dreamland (2000) #1
    Batman: Ego (2000) #1
    Batman: Faces (1995) #1
    Batman: Fortunate Son (1999) #1
    Batman: Full Circle (1991) #1
    Batman: Gotham City – Secret Files (2000) #1
    Batman/Green Arrow: The Poison Tomorrow (1992) #1
    Batman: Harley Quinn (1999) #1
    Batman: Harvest Breed (2000) #1
    Batman: Hidden Treasures (2010) #1
    Batman: Hong Kong (2003) #1
    Batman in Barcelona: Dragon’s Knight (2009) #1
    Batman/Joker: Switch (2003) #1
    Batman: Joker’s Apprentice (1999) #1
    Batman: Mitefall (1995) #1
    Batman: Mr Freeze (1997) #1
    Batman: Night Cries (1992) #1
    Batman/Nightwing: Bloodborne (2002) #1
    Batman: Nine Lives (2002) #1
    Batman: No Law and A New Order (1999) #1
    Batman: No Man’s Land – Secret Files (1999) #1
    Batman: Noel (2011) #1
    Batman of Arkham (2000) #1
    Batman: Our Worlds At War (2001) #1
    Batman: Penguin Triumphant (1992) #1
    Batman/Phantom Stranger (1997) #1
    Batman: Poison Ivy (1997) #1
    Batman/Poison Ivy: Cast Shadows (2004) #1
    Batman: Riddler – The Riddle Factory (1995) #1
    Batman: Room Full of Strangers (2004) #1
    Batman/Scarface: A Psychodrama (2001) #1
    Batman: Scottish Connection (1998) #1
    Batman: Secret Files (1997) #1
    Batman: Seduction of the Gun (1992) #1
    Batman: Son of the Demon (1987) #1
    Batman/Spoiler/Huntress: Blunt Trauma (1998) #1
    Batman: The 10-Cent Adventure (2002) #1
    Batman: The 12-Cent Adventure (2004) #1
    Batman: The Abduction (1998) #1
    Batman: The Chalice (1999) #1
    Batman: The Hill (2000) #1
    Batman: The Killing Joke (1988) #1
    Batman: The Last Angel (1994) #1
    Batman: The Man Who Laughs (2005) #1
    Batman: The Return (2011) #1
    Batman/The Spirit (2007) #1
    Batman: Through the Looking Glass (2011) #1
    Batman/Two Face: Crime and Punishment (1996) #1
    Batman: Two Faces (1998) #1
    Batman: Vengeance of Bane (1993) #1
    Batman: Vengeance of Bane II (1995) #1
    Batman: Villains – Secret Files (1998) #1
    Batman: Villains – Secret Files and Origins 2005 (2005) #1
    Batman: War on Crime (1999) #1
    Batman Incorporated: Leviathan Strikes (2012) #1
    Batman Incorporated Special (2013) #1
    Birds of Prey: Batgirl (1998) #1
    Birds of Prey: Batgirl/Catwoman (2003) #1
    Birds of Prey: Catwoman/Oracle (2003) #1
    Birds of Prey: Ravens (1998) #1
    Birds of Prey: Revolution (1997) #1
    Birds of Prey: Secret Files 2003 (2003) #1
    Birds of Prey: Wolves (1997) #1
    Black Canary/Oracle: Birds of Prey (1996) #1
    Bruce Wayne: The Road Home – Batgirl (2010) #1
    Bruce Wayne: The Road Home – Batman and Robin (2010) #1
    Bruce Wayne: The Road Home – Catwoman (2010) #1
    Bruce Wayne: The Road Home – Commissioner Gordon (2010) #1
    Bruce Wayne: The Road Home – Oracle (2010) #1
    Bruce Wayne: The Road Home – Outsiders (2010) #1
    Bruce Wayne: The Road Home – Ra’s Al Ghul (2010) #1
    Bruce Wayne: The Road Home – Red Robin (2010) #1
    Book of Shadows (1999) #1
    Catwoman + ___ (1997) #1
    Catwoman: Secret Files and Origins (2002) #1
    Catwoman: Selina’s Big Score (2002) #1
    DC First: Batgirl/Joker (2002) #1
    Gotham Gazette (2009) #1
    Gotham Gazette: Batman Alive? (2009) #1
    Harley Quinn: Our Worlds At War (2001) #1
    Joker (2008) #1
    Joker: Devil’s Advocate (1995) #1
    Joker: The Last Laugh – Secret Files (2001) #1
    Joker’s Asylum: Joker (2008) #1
    Joker’s Asylum: Penguin (2008) #1
    Joker’s Asylum: Poison Ivy (2008) #1
    Joker’s Asylum: Scarecrow (2008) #1
    Joker’s Asylum: Two-Face (2008) #1
    Joker’s Asylum II: Clayface (2010) #1
    Joker’s Asylum II: Harley Quinn (2010) #1
    Joker’s Asylum II: Killer Croc (2010) #1
    Joker’s Asylum II: Mad Hatter (2010) #1
    Joker’s Asylum II: The Riddler (2010) #1
    Nightwing: 80-Page Giant (2000) #1
    Nightwing: Alfred’s Return (1995) #1
    Nightwing: Our World At War (2001) #1
    Nightwing: Secret Files (1999) #1
    Nightwing: The Target (2001) #1
    Outsiders: Five of a Kind – Katana/Shazam (2007) #1
    Outsiders: Five of a Kind – Martian Manhunter/Thunder (2007) #1
    Outsiders: Five of a Kind – Metamorpho/Aquaman (2007) #1
    Outsiders: Five of a Kind – Nightwing/Boomerang (2007) #1
    Outsiders: Five of a Kind – Wonder Woman/Grace (2007) #1
    Planetary/Batman: Night on Earth (2003) #1
    Realworlds: Batman (2000) #1
    Robin: 80-Page Giant (2000) #1
    Robin/Argent: Double Shot (1998) #1
    Robin/Spoiler Special (2008) #1
    Sins of Youth: Batboy and Robin (2000) #1
    Superman/Batman: Secret Files 2003 (2003) #1
    Teen Titans/Outsiders: Secret Files 2003 (2003) #1
    Teen Titans/Outsiders: Secret Files and Origins 2005 (2005) #1
    Underworld Unleashed: Batman – Devil’s Asylum (1995) #1


    Only problem I had was the DC Retroactive one-shots, I can't recall which ones had all-new (post-crisis) stories. Once again, any comments would be appreciated.

    Many Thanks!

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    So, as you can see, the checklist part of the project is coming along quite well.

    Over the next few days I am going to completely restructure the list, and put it on Google Docs.

    Many Thanks!

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