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    How dark and cynical is Millar/Hitch Ultimates? Pretty darn?

    Is X-Men: The Twelve as bad as Eve of Destruction?

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    So with a few tie in issues per volume Dazzler could be done in 3 MMW volumes? Sound about right?

    Then one big 47-50 issue Omni?
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    Quote Originally Posted by invisiblegardener View Post
    How dark and cynical is Millar/Hitch Ultimates? Pretty darn?
    Yep. Everyone’s an a-hole, Betty Ross is constantly demeaning Bruce Banner and cheating on him, Jan and Hank’s relationship is super dysfunctional and abusive, and Cap is a jingoistic jerk (yet still the most heroic member). And their first villain is one of their own members, the Hulk, who keeps threatening(?) to eat people.

    I was really surprised they’re reprinting it, because while the art is gorgeous, I can’t imagine it’s aged well. Even politically speaking it’s not very timely, as the corruption and human rights abuses of present day are completely different from the corruption and warmongering of the administration in power when the Ultimates came out. And of course the Ultimate universe is gone. So other than being a whale, I’m not sure what synergy (if any) they’re looking to tap into.

    It IS gorgeous, though.
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    I assumed the MCU.

    It's big and bombastic, and I think it's fun, though The Lucky One accurately depicted some of it's downfalls.

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    I need and will be getting that Ultimate
    Omnibus, just like I have to own
    The Authority Omnibus arriving
    Next week

    Ross not Brant

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lucky One View Post
    Yep. Everyone’s an a-hole, Betty Brant is constantly demeaning Bruce Banner and cheating on him, Jan and Hank’s relationship is super dysfunctional and abusive, and Cap is a jingoistic jerk (yet still the most heroic member). And their first villain is one of their own members, the Hulk, who keeps threatening(?) to eat people.

    I was really surprised they’re reprinting it, because while the art is gorgeous, I can’t imagine it’s aged well. Even politically speaking it’s not very timely, as the corruption and human rights abuses of present day are completely different from the corruption and warmongering of the administration in power when the Ultimates came out. And of course the Ultimate universe is gone. So other than being a whale, I’m not sure what synergy (if any) they’re looking to tap into.

    It IS gorgeous, though.
    While I absolutely agree with everything you said there I think it's not supposed to be read a 100% seriously. Reread it last year (like the 6th time in the last decade) and it really felt like a satire. Like Robocop or Starship troopers.
    And considering Millar's often anti authoritarian politics (although it's been a while since I've followed him on social media, he might have sold out since then) I don't think this is a big stretch.

    Also the MCU was very influenced by it but Feige and crew cherrypicked the best stuff and left all the "f**k you" attitude behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by My Two Cents View Post
    I need and will be getting that Ultimate
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    The Authority Omnibus arriving
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    Ross not Brant
    D’oh! Teach me to post over lunch break.

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    Here’s hoping that we get a reprint of the first Miles Morales Omnibus... didn’t realize it was OOP and that it was only one volume.

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    After Endgame, I re-read the Ultimates by Millar and Hitch. I think this book and Favreau's Iron Man are the two main reasons the Marvel Cinematic universe exists. Everyone is definitely abrasive and vulgar, but that is part of the idea. When I re-read the series, I was surprised how much of that book mapped out the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tv horror View Post
    I'm with you however I'm not too happy about buying the Amazing fantasy issues again as I already have the omnibus and I still have to check the Monsterbus editions? Still it is welcome news as I love the Pre-hero collections.
    Thanks for the info.
    Good to know,because i had the Amazing Fantasy Omnibus in my wishlist of collected editions.
    So if i am not mistaken, the contents of the Amazing Fantasy Omnibus are in the Marvel Masters of Suspense: Stan Lee & Steve Ditko Omnibus Volume 2 and Monsters.The Marvel Monsterbus Vol.2.
    Now after knowing the contents of the Marvel Masters of Suspense: Stan Lee & Steve Ditko Omnibus Volume 2, i won´t be getting the Amazing Fantasy Omnibus anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteshark View Post
    Thanks for the info.
    Good to know,because i had the Amazing Fantasy Omnibus in my wishlist of collected editions.
    So if i am not mistaken, the contents of the Amazing Fantasy Omnibus are in the Marvel Masters of Suspense: Stan Lee & Steve Ditko Omnibus Volume 2 and Monsters.The Marvel Monsterbus Vol.2.
    Now after knowing the contents of the Marvel Masters of Suspense: Stan Lee & Steve Ditko Omnibus Volume 2, i won´t be getting the Amazing Fantasy Omnibus anymore.
    Hello Whiteshark not all the Amazing fantasy issues are in the new book only eight of them plus a number of other titles from the Monsterbus volumes will be reprinted. Thanks for the reply.
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    This just in. Omar Valdivieso announces The Sensational She-Hulk by Byrne Omnibus:


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    I just got the Sensational She-Hulk
    John Byrne trade with over 400
    Pages so this omnibus is going
    To be a pass for me.
    I probably will be getting the
    Black Widow Omnibus
    Still need to see the content.

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    Quote Originally Posted by My Two Cents View Post
    I just got the Sensational She-Hulk
    John Byrne trade with over 400
    Pages so this omnibus is going
    To be a pass for me.
    I probably will be getting the
    Black Widow Omnibus
    Still need to see the content.
    Courtesy of the folks over at the MMW boards:
    TALES OF SUSPENSE (1959) 52-53, 57, 60, 64;
    AVENGERS (1963) 29-30, 36-37, 43-44;
    AMAZING SPIDER-MAN (1963) 86;
    AMAZING ADVENTURES (1970) 1-8;
    DAREDEVIL (1964) 81;
    BIZARRE ADVENTURES (1981) 25;
    MARVEL FANFARE (1982) 10-13;
    SOLO AVENGERS (1987) 7;
    BLACK WIDOW: COLDEST WAR (1990);
    PUNISHER/BLACK WIDOW: SPINNING DOOMSDAY'S WEB (1992);
    DAREDEVIL/BLACK WIDOW: ABATTOIR (1993);
    MARVEL COMICS PRESENTS (1988) 135;
    DAREDEVIL ANNUAL (1967) 10;
    FURY/BLACK WIDOW: DEATH DUTY (1995);
    JOURNEY INTO MYSTERY (1951) 517-519;
    MATERIAL FROM AVENGERS (1963) 16, 32- 33, 38-39, 41-42, 45-47, 57, 63-64, 76
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    Definitely happy to finally get the Sensational She-Hulk omni, but for 752 pages, I wish it was $100 list instead of $125. No hesitation to get it though.

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