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    Quote Originally Posted by Graphic Autist View Post
    Not sure if I missed something, but why would the number four hinder anyone from buying a book they want?
    Its the idea of diminishing returns as volumes go up. Having a name makes it seem more special for someone new to buy it rather than jumping in at volume 4.
    So Roger Stern Spiderman omnibus sounds different than Spiderman vol 8 or something.

    Note: I'd happily buy Vol 4 and volume numbers don't bother me. I happily bought avengers 3 even though I don't have 1/2.

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    I have to apologise for so many of my posts being questions, I only got into comics last year.

    Would someone mind clearing up what the Earth X series is? I understand it is like Kingdom Come, but as the omnibus is 1300 pages, I'm wondering if it is more like the Ultimate Universe? Is it a separate canon that has some ties to the main Marvel or completely separate?

    Would you personally recommend giving the book a go? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeGuy View Post
    I have to apologise for so many of my posts being questions, I only got into comics last year.

    Would someone mind clearing up what the Earth X series is? I understand it is like Kingdom Come, but as the omnibus is 1300 pages, I'm wondering if it is more like the Ultimate Universe? Is it a separate canon that has some ties to the main Marvel or completely separate?

    Would you personally recommend giving the book a go? Thanks.
    Earth X was a 14 issue mini series by Alex Ross and Jim Krueger about an alternate world and history for the Marvel heroes. Ross redesigned most characters based on the story he and Krueger worked out. It was popular enough to get 2 followup mini series Universe X and Paradise X both 14 issues each. There were also some one shot tie ins.

    The canon is separate without story ties to the 616 or Ultimate universe. If you're a fan of Alex Ross designs and Elseworld/AU, then you should like it. If those don't appeal to you, then you should pass.

    Wiki summary of the series: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_X

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rincewind View Post
    Earth X was a 14 issue mini series by Alex Ross and Jim Krueger about an alternate world and history for the Marvel heroes. Ross redesigned most characters based on the story he and Krueger worked out. It was popular enough to get 2 followup mini series Universe X and Paradise X both 14 issues each. There were also some one shot tie ins.

    The canon is separate without story ties to the 616 or Ultimate universe. If you're a fan of Alex Ross designs and Elseworld/AU, then you should like it. If those don't appeal to you, then you should pass.

    Wiki summary of the series: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_X
    Very helpful, thanks! What is Elseworld/AU?

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    Quote Originally Posted by invisiblegardener View Post
    Very helpful, thanks! What is Elseworld/AU?
    DC Imprint for stories that take place outside of canon. Think Kingdom Come and Superman Red Son

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    Quote Originally Posted by invisiblegardener View Post
    Very helpful, thanks! What is Elseworld/AU?
    Alternate Universes. "Elseworlds" is what DC called their Alternate Universe imprint (think "Superman: Speeding Bullets", "Batman/Dracula: Red Rain", et cetera). Earth X or Marvel 1602 are good examples for Marvel.

    These type of stories are often interesting as they explore different possibilities with known characters, free from norms that stem from canon or marketing interests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ87 View Post
    I was thinking about getting these instead of the Infinity HC for my Marvel event shelf, since it's collected in volume 1. But would you sandwich the Original Sin HC in between them, or where would it fall chronologically?
    I actually put in next to my Thor OHCs, since it's by Aaron and had a big affect on Thor.

    Quote Originally Posted by Graphic Autist View Post
    Not sure if I missed something, but why would the number four hinder anyone from buying a book they want?
    Because of some stupid, clueless and misleading shit that editor Tom Brevoort, arguably one of the worse Marvel editors, once said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graphic Autist View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Craig View Post
    ^^^^^
    I hope that ASM vol. 4 happens, it should and with the 4 labelling. Fear not Marvel Collections, it will be bought, we don't fear the number.
    Spider-man: Far From Home opens after Avengers 4 after all. Would be awesome to get both in 2019!!
    Not sure if I missed something, but why would the number four hinder anyone from buying a book they want?
    Quote Originally Posted by RamblingMan View Post
    Its the idea of diminishing returns as volumes go up. Having a name makes it seem more special for someone new to buy it rather than jumping in at volume 4.
    So Roger Stern Spiderman omnibus sounds different than Spiderman vol 8 or something.

    Note: I'd happily buy Vol 4 and volume numbers don't bother me. I happily bought avengers 3 even though I don't have 1/2.
    Quote Originally Posted by TomSlick View Post
    I actually put in next to my Thor OHCs, since it's by Aaron and had a big affect on Thor.
    Because of some stupid, clueless and misleading shit that editor Tom Brevoort, arguably one of the worse Marvel editors, once said.
    Thanks for the assist in answering.
    With few exception, Shang-Chi: Master of Kung-Fu, Marvel has not done consecutively numbered Omnis above volume 3.
    Brevoort is our understanding of why.
    They did do 5 Brubaker Captain America Omnis but they were given subtitle names, not vol.1-5 and they pre-announced Master of Kung-Fu as a 4 volume set. Theoretically to let the buying public know they would indeed complete the series. If Marvel is serious about Conan Omnis the volume count will be high if done consecutively.

    Marvel has several popular Omni series sitting at volume 3 and we the buyers are ready for volume 4s.
    Fantastic Four, Uncanny X-Men, Amazing Spider-man, Avengers and Mighty Thor.


    **Note: DC's Golden Age Batman & Superman Omni lines are both at 5 with a vol.6 of Bats solicited.
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    Marvel has several popular Omni series sitting at volume 3 and we the buyers are ready for volume 4s.
    Fantastic Four, Uncanny X-Men, Amazing Spider-man, Avengers and Mighty Thor.


    I would buy all five of these. My bets are on Spiderman by the time the next movie comes out or Avengers when that next movie comes out. Xmen may be a ways off as they are only masterworking these volumes now.
    Captain America is also stuck at Vol 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RamblingMan View Post
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    Captain America is also stuck at Vol 2.
    As is Invincible Iron Man of which I'd pick up volume 3s for both.
    I vote for Incredible Hulk v2 every year in the secret ballot.
    Surely Daredevil v2 will also eventually arise but there is a lot of interest in the DD Bendis v.1-2 being reprinted and I doubt we get all 3 in one year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Craig View Post
    As is Invincible Iron Man of which I'd pick up volume 3s for both.
    I vote for Incredible Hulk v2 every year in the secret ballot.
    Surely Daredevil v2 will also eventually arise but there is a lot of interest in the DD Bendis v.1-2 being reprinted and I doubt we get all 3 in one year.
    I bought DD Omni 1 (collecting MMW 1-4) and MMW 9-12 so I am looking to fill that gap with DD Omni vol 2 which hopefully will collect MMW 5-8. I figured DD Vol 3 was a far ways away so felt confident in buying the more recent MMWs!
    I also have a similar hole to fill with Avengers and Doctor Strange (Really want Vol 2!).
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomSlick View Post
    I actually put in next to my Thor OHCs, since it's by Aaron and had a big affect on Thor.
    I'm about to buy volumes 1 & 2 of Thor God of Thunder OHCs (#1- 25). Original Sin fits in right after that or...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by j0nnyboy View Post
    I'm about to buy volumes 1 & 2 of Thor God of Thunder OHCs (#1- 25). Original Sin fits in right after that or...?
    Original Sin comes between Thor: God of Thunder #24 and 25, so placing it after the Thor OHCs on the shelf is what I would do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Craig View Post
    Thanks for the assist in answering.
    With few exception, Shang-Chi: Master of Kung-Fu, Marvel has not done consecutively numbered Omnis above volume 3.
    Brevoort is our understanding of why.
    They did do 5 Brubaker Captain America Omnis but they were given subtitle names, not vol.1-5 and they pre-announced Master of Kung-Fu as a 4 volume set. Theoretically to let the buying public know they would indeed complete the series. If Marvel is serious about Conan Omnis the volume count will be high if done consecutively.

    Marvel has several popular Omni series sitting at volume 3 and we the buyers are ready for volume 4s.
    Fantastic Four, Uncanny X-Men, Amazing Spider-man, Avengers and Mighty Thor.


    **Note: DC's Golden Age Batman & Superman Omni lines are both at 5 with a vol.6 of Bats solicited.
    I know this doesn't really count, but I like to think that X-Men is technically on volume 5, since the two Silver Age volumes lead right into the three Uncanny volumes. Much like the Brubaker Cap run, it's at least consecutive.

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    I think for X-men you'd have to say its currently up to volume 6 on that reasoning, with Volume 3 as yet unreleased. There's enough material for an original X-men Omnibus 3 from the pre-Giant-Sized era, which has been collected in 2 Masterworks volumes and in Epic format. Whether Marvel would ever actually release it in Omnibus format is another issue altogether.

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