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[krisis]

The recent Secret Wars changed a lot

I think we're too close to it to tell, which is why I suggested a three-year distance to evaluate events.

In the year after an event it always feels like a lot of new things emerged. Siege created The Heroic Age, with big name heroes being heroes again. It brought Thor's story full circle and him back to the main Marvel fold. It did... um, other stuff? But, in retrospect I don't think it really nailed the "Change the Marvel Universe forever!" hype that most events get.

What has Secret Wars changed, so far? It took the Ultimate Universe off the table, but to 616 readers that's already a non-factor. It moved a number of new characters and concepts into the 616, but we don't know yet if they will all last. However, as I've started catching up on ANAD books, it seems to me like a lot of the big changes in the universe are more a result of having an 8 month gap both before and after Secret Wars for untold stories to exist in.

But, like I said, I think we're still too close to it. Also, maybe for you it really did change everything forever! There's certainly an amount of subjectivity that enters this equation.

To use a similar example - in 2008, would we have said the original Civil War had a lasting impact on the Marvel Universe? And, do we have that same answer now?

House of M. The road that event sent the mutant part of the MU down was still in effect, at least up to Secret Wars, in my opinion. I haven't read anything post SW, so I don't know about currently. I think Civil War should of had a much stronger/longer impact, but Secret Invasion came in so fast and put almost everyone back on the same side.

Completely agreed. House of M released a lot of concepts into the Universe that cannot be crammed back into the bottle - not just for X-Men, but in terms of the subjectivity of Marvel's reality and also the power level that the heroes are willing to allow any single character to possess going forward.

Ah, but what about the second part of my question - does that make you want to re-read it?

And, as I alluded to above, I feel similarly about Civil War.

[Avengers1986]

These are out of stock at In stock trades, wonder if they are OOP or just out of stock for now.

http://www.instocktrades.com/TP/Marv...E-HC/JUL110719 , the TPB is still in stock but I think the HC had additional issues.

http://www.instocktrades.com/TP/Marv...L-01/SEP120677

http://www.instocktrades.com/TP/Marv...L-02/MAY150812

http://www.instocktrades.com/TP/Marv...S-HC/FEB150870

Also, http://www.instocktrades.com/TP/Marv...ing)/FEB140829 , wonder if this is going OOP now too.

[awayne83]

Looks like the Onslaught Omni may be heading towards OOP. OOS @ IST and prices creeping up at CGN

[Mr`Orange]

House of M. The road that event sent the mutant part of the MU down was still in effect, at least up to Secret Wars, in my opinion. I haven't read anything post SW, so I don't know about currently. I think Civil War should of had a much stronger/longer impact, but Secret Invasion came in so fast and put almost everyone back on the same side.

Yeah I'll second that, it is the only event that still has an impact on the way the Marvel Universe works. To the same degree I'd say that Messiah Complex also has had a long term impact on the X-Men side of the MU.

[Vilynne]

Has there been any rumors or ramblings of any sort that point to another printing or Annihilation? Omnibus or trade format, I'm dying to read this.

[mzqamarul]

Looks like the Onslaught Omni may be heading towards OOP. OOS @ IST and prices creeping up at CGN

Was going to order it last 2 weeks and it was OOS. Got Avengers by Busiek Omni V.2 instead. Hopefully more stocks are coming or I'm screwed.

[mrjohnnykid]

Looks like the Onslaught Omni may be heading towards OOP. OOS @ IST and prices creeping up at CGN

I thought it was going OOP so i got a copy at BookDepository 10 days ago and it took them a week to send it.

The only time it took that long was when i got Trial of Captain America and it went OOP straight after that.

[Drakul]

Completely agreed. House of M released a lot of concepts into the Universe that cannot be crammed back into the bottle - not just for X-Men, but in terms of the subjectivity of Marvel's reality and also the power level that the heroes are willing to allow any single character to possess going forward.

I'm so very patiently waiting for it to be Omnied.

[jgm7v3]

I'm so very patiently waiting for it to be Omnied.

Seconded. I think House of M would read very, very well in the Omnibus format.

[Captain Craig]

I'm so very patiently waiting for it to be Omnied.

Seconded. I think House of M would read very, very well in the Omnibus format.

Thirded. It's time will come at the rate the Collections Dept reprints and repackages X-material.

[TomSlick]

I have a question for you, Marvel Collectors: What Marvel event collections, with at least three years of hindsight, really did "change everything" in a way that still feels significant after the fact and makes you want to refer to and re-read them years down the line?

I'm going to take a different approach and say the original Secret Wars, which no one has mentioned at this point.

Did it change everything? Well, yes and no. Things were changed for years (which is longer than most events) and its impact is still felt today.

Some thoughts:

For years after the event, She-Hulk was a member of the FF. In addition, the event affected the X-Men, particularly the relationship between Kitty and Peter, which was rectified until Whedon brought the two back together (as far as I know - there were a lot of bad X-Men years I didn't read).

The event was the torchbearer for all events to follow (unless you county Contest of Champions, and I don't)

The event established Dr. Doom as a legitimate bad ass. I mean, come on, prior to this Spider-Man and Luke Cage kicked his ass in single floppies. I mean the dude beat down the Beyonder.

The event established Molecule Man as a legitimate, scary bad ass. (He was a joke before this.)

The event created two characters. First: Spider-Woman. She's stuck around.

But, it led to the creation of Venom, an internationally recognized villain and hero (over the years). Seriously, how many events have actually created a character that's stuck? (I guess DC's Bloodlines led to Hitman, but I digress)

Writers - for lack of creativity - continue to use the "Secret Wars" name for other events. There was a sequel, the Bendis story line and then the Hickman run. (A lot like DC's lack of creativity and the cutesy use of "Crisis" in a number of their events.)

Pieces of the events are still mentioned today.


Anyway, my two cents.

[Peter Parker]

Anyway, my two cents.

You are right.

[Brewman]

I'm going to take a different approach and say the original Secret Wars, which no one has mentioned at this point.

Did it change everything? Well, yes and no. Things were changed for years (which is longer than most events) and its impact is still felt today.

Some thoughts:

For years after the event, She-Hulk was a member of the FF. In addition, the event affected the X-Men, particularly the relationship between Kitty and Peter, which was rectified until Whedon brought the two back together (as far as I know - there were a lot of bad X-Men years I didn't read).

The event was the torchbearer for all events to follow (unless you county Contest of Champions, and I don't)

The event established Dr. Doom as a legitimate bad ass. I mean, come on, prior to this Spider-Man and Luke Cage kicked his ass in single floppies. I mean the dude beat down the Beyonder.

The event established Molecule Man as a legitimate, scary bad ass. (He was a joke before this.)

The event created two characters. First: Spider-Woman. She's stuck around.

But, it led to the creation of Venom, an internationally recognized villain and hero (over the years). Seriously, how many events have actually created a character that's stuck? (I guess DC's Bloodlines led to Hitman, but I digress)

Writers - for lack of creativity - continue to use the "Secret Wars" name for other events. There was a sequel, the Bendis story line and then the Hickman run. (A lot like DC's lack of creativity and the cutesy use of "Crisis" in a number of their events.)

Pieces of the events are still mentioned today.


Anyway, my two cents.

Outside of the symbiote I never really thought through how much did spring from that event. What is funny though is as I was catching up on the thread I saw Krisis response to my answer about wanting to reread, and the first thing that popped into my head was Secret Wars. I just love the event; issues 11 & 12 were some of my first comics ever and it is just a great event. I could reread it countless times and enjoy it.

[csista]

These are out of stock at In stock trades, wonder if they are OOP or just out of stock for now.

http://www.instocktrades.com/TP/Marv...E-HC/JUL110719 , the TPB is still in stock but I think the HC had additional issues.

http://www.instocktrades.com/TP/Marv...L-01/SEP120677

http://www.instocktrades.com/TP/Marv...L-02/MAY150812

http://www.instocktrades.com/TP/Marv...S-HC/FEB150870

Also, http://www.instocktrades.com/TP/Marv...ing)/FEB140829 , wonder if this is going OOP now too.

Avengers Vol. 2 is down to just 4 copies on Amazon, and I just bought the last copy from CGN through Amazon. Not sure of the status on the CGN main site. So that's definitely one to jump on if you wanted it.

[The Flicker Fade]

I'm going to take a different approach and say the original Secret Wars, which no one has mentioned at this point.

Did it change everything? Well, yes and no. Things were changed for years (which is longer than most events) and its impact is still felt today.

Some thoughts:

For years after the event, She-Hulk was a member of the FF. In addition, the event affected the X-Men, particularly the relationship between Kitty and Peter, which was rectified until Whedon brought the two back together (as far as I know - there were a lot of bad X-Men years I didn't read).

The event was the torchbearer for all events to follow (unless you county Contest of Champions, and I don't)

The event established Dr. Doom as a legitimate bad ass. I mean, come on, prior to this Spider-Man and Luke Cage kicked his ass in single floppies. I mean the dude beat down the Beyonder.

The event established Molecule Man as a legitimate, scary bad ass. (He was a joke before this.)

The event created two characters. First: Spider-Woman. She's stuck around.

But, it led to the creation of Venom, an internationally recognized villain and hero (over the years). Seriously, how many events have actually created a character that's stuck? (I guess DC's Bloodlines led to Hitman, but I digress)

Writers - for lack of creativity - continue to use the "Secret Wars" name for other events. There was a sequel, the Bendis story line and then the Hickman run. (A lot like DC's lack of creativity and the cutesy use of "Crisis" in a number of their events.)

Pieces of the events are still mentioned today.


Anyway, my two cents.

Secret Wars (and Secret Wars II) made giant crossover events a part of the Marvel Universe ever afterwards, for better or worse. So yeah, I'd agree it had perhaps the largest, most enduring change ever.