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  1. 12-06-2016, 06:11 PM #7306
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomSlick View Post
    Right I remember four and five going back to back.
    A three year gap is pretty big. I'm still thinking there was a good size space between Uncanny X-Men 1 and 2 although I'm thinking Marvel reprinted 1 and then followed a year later with 2.
    According to our dear friend krisis spread sheet time between first printings and sequels is:
    Spider-Man 1 to 2 5 years
    Cap (SA) 1 to 2 5 years
    Cap Bru 3 to 4 4 years
    FF 2 to 3 8 years
    UXM 1 to 2 8 years
    Again that is the time between first prints. The average seems to be 2-3 years and that typically holds true when reprints are in play as well. I think the Cap Bru may take it since there are no reprints in play.
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    Hey guys, what is the reading order for the All-New X-Men and Uncanny X-Men Deluxe Editions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brewman View Post
    According to our dear friend krisis spread sheet time between first printings and sequels is:
    Spider-Man 1 to 2 5 years
    Cap (SA) 1 to 2 5 years
    Cap Bru 3 to 4 4 years
    FF 2 to 3 8 years
    UXM 1 to 2 8 years
    Again that is the time between first prints. The average seems to be 2-3 years and that typically holds true when reprints are in play as well. I think the Cap Bru may take it since there are no reprints in play.

    Wow, 8 years on some of them. Didn't realize that. Thanks for finding this.
    I guess that means there's some hope for that third Fraction Iron Man.
    Ha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomSlick View Post
    Wow, 8 years on some of them. Didn't realize that. Thanks for finding this.
    I guess that means there's some hope for that third Fraction Iron Man.
    Ha.
    Hulk was at 8 years this year. Come on Hulk I believe in you... (In best hulk voice): Hulk is longest gap there is!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomSlick View Post
    Wow, 8 years on some of them. Didn't realize that. Thanks for finding this.
    I guess that means there's some hope for that third Fraction Iron Man.
    Ha.
    I was actually just looking up what trades I needed to complete that run....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brewman View Post
    The Hulk Vol 1.....
    The Silver Surfer Vol 1 (Not sure why they #'d it Vol 1 but they did so....)

    I know this is not the point of your question, but I just realllllly want Vol 2's of these.
    I also want these, I really, reallllly do!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Knight1047 View Post
    Hey guys, what is the reading order for the All-New X-Men and Uncanny X-Men Deluxe Editions?
    ANXM begins prior to UXM, but as soon as UXM kicks in there is a lot of interweaving early in the series. I don't 100% trust this order yet, but it's pretty close:

    All-New X-Men (2013) #1-8
    Uncanny X-Men (2013) #1-2
    All-New X-Men (2013) #9-11
    Uncanny X-Men (2013) #3-9
    All-New X-Men (2013) #11-14
    Uncanny X-Men (2013) #10-11
    All-New X-Men (2013) #15, Special, 16
    Uncanny X-Men (2013) #12
    All-New X-Men (2013) #17
    Uncanny X-Men (2013) #13-14
    All-New X-Men (2013) #18
    Uncanny X-Men (2013) #18
    All-New X-Men (2013) #19-21
    Uncanny X-Men (2013) #15-17 ~ X-Men: No More Humans OGN
    Annuals (both)
    Uncanny X-Men (2013) #18
    All-New X-Men (2013) #22-25 & Special
    Uncanny X-Men (2013) #19-25
    All-New X-Men (2013) #26-31
    Uncanny X-Men (2013) #24-31 (mostly erased by a time paradox)
    All-New X-Men (2013) #31-36
    Uncanny X-Men (2013) #32-33
    All-New X-Men (2013) #37-41
    Uncanny X-Men (2013) #34-35 & 600

    Based on that, you probably should read:

    ANXM Vol. 1 (#1-10)
    UXM Vol. 1 first half (#1-11)
    ANXM Vol. 2 first half (#11-15)
    BOTA: (ANXM #16-17 & UXM #12-13)
    ANXM Vol. 2 second half (#18-21)
    UXM Vol. 1 second half (#14-18) + X-Men: No More Humans OGN
    ANXM Vol. 3 (#22-30)
    UXM Vol. 2 to #19-31
    ANXM Vol. 3 (#31-41)
    UXM Vol. 2 to #32-35 & 600

    Quote Originally Posted by TomSlick View Post
    Wow, 8 years on some of them. Didn't realize that. Thanks for finding this.
    I guess that means there's some hope for that third Fraction Iron Man.
    Ha.
    Yeah, but I don't know if we can compare the middling finish of Fraction's Iron Man to a UXM Silver Age run. I've given up on it, at this point.
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  9. 12-07-2016, 02:06 AM #7314
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormegil View Post
    Is this an error somewhere or are there two different silver age Sub-mariner Vol 1. masterwork collections. One here at in stock trades has a golden age issue and it doesn't have Tales of Suspense #80 the Iron man crossover issue. The Amazon listing for vol. 1 doesn't have the golden age issue but it does have Tales of Suspense #80.

    Did marvel really do a second printing and leave out a key issue?
    Short answer, yes.

    Marvel reprinted the hardcover MMW Subby Vol 1 twice -- with slightly different covers, title pages, and table of contents -- both of those editions have the first golden age, Marvel appearance of Namor from Marvel Comics #1 -- but not the earlier black and white edition from Motion Picture Funnies. Both of those hardcovers do NOT have the Tales Suspense #80 crossover issue, however. No idea why they left it out when they reprinted the second edition.

    The MMW Subby Vol 1 was reprinted a third time in paperback, and that had the Tales of Suspense #80 issue, but I believe ditched the first golden age story. Essentials Subby vol 1 also ditched the golden age story and added the Tales of Suspense story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by krisis View Post
    ANXM begins prior to UXM, but as soon as UXM kicks in there is a lot of interweaving early in the series. I don't 100% trust this order yet, but it's pretty close:

    All-New X-Men (2013) #1-8
    Uncanny X-Men (2013) #1-2
    All-New X-Men (2013) #9-11
    Uncanny X-Men (2013) #3-9
    All-New X-Men (2013) #11-14
    Uncanny X-Men (2013) #10-11
    All-New X-Men (2013) #15, Special, 16
    Uncanny X-Men (2013) #12
    All-New X-Men (2013) #17
    Uncanny X-Men (2013) #13-14
    All-New X-Men (2013) #18
    Uncanny X-Men (2013) #18
    All-New X-Men (2013) #19-21
    Uncanny X-Men (2013) #15-17 ~ X-Men: No More Humans OGN
    Annuals (both)
    Uncanny X-Men (2013) #18
    All-New X-Men (2013) #22-25 & Special
    Uncanny X-Men (2013) #19-25
    All-New X-Men (2013) #26-31
    Uncanny X-Men (2013) #24-31 (mostly erased by a time paradox)
    All-New X-Men (2013) #31-36
    Uncanny X-Men (2013) #32-33
    All-New X-Men (2013) #37-41
    Uncanny X-Men (2013) #34-35 & 600

    Based on that, you probably should read:

    ANXM Vol. 1 (#1-10)
    UXM Vol. 1 first half (#1-11)
    ANXM Vol. 2 first half (#11-15)
    BOTA: (ANXM #16-17 & UXM #12-13)
    ANXM Vol. 2 second half (#18-21)
    UXM Vol. 1 second half (#14-18) + X-Men: No More Humans OGN
    ANXM Vol. 3 (#22-30)
    UXM Vol. 2 to #19-31
    ANXM Vol. 3 (#31-41)
    UXM Vol. 2 to #32-35 & 600



    Yeah, but I don't know if we can compare the middling finish of Fraction's Iron Man to a UXM Silver Age run. I've given up on it, at this point.
    Thanks krisis!
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  11. 12-07-2016, 05:43 PM #7316
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    Quote Originally Posted by krisis View Post
    ANXM begins prior to UXM, but as soon as UXM kicks in there is a lot of interweaving early in the series. I don't 100% trust this order yet, but it's pretty close:

    All-New X-Men (2013) #1-8
    Uncanny X-Men (2013) #1-2
    All-New X-Men (2013) #9-11
    Uncanny X-Men (2013) #3-9
    All-New X-Men (2013) #11-14
    Uncanny X-Men (2013) #10-11
    All-New X-Men (2013) #15, Special, 16
    Uncanny X-Men (2013) #12
    All-New X-Men (2013) #17
    Uncanny X-Men (2013) #13-14
    All-New X-Men (2013) #18
    Uncanny X-Men (2013) #18
    All-New X-Men (2013) #19-21
    Uncanny X-Men (2013) #15-17 ~ X-Men: No More Humans OGN
    Annuals (both)
    Uncanny X-Men (2013) #18
    All-New X-Men (2013) #22-25 & Special
    Uncanny X-Men (2013) #19-25
    All-New X-Men (2013) #26-31
    Uncanny X-Men (2013) #24-31 (mostly erased by a time paradox)
    All-New X-Men (2013) #31-36
    Uncanny X-Men (2013) #32-33
    All-New X-Men (2013) #37-41
    Uncanny X-Men (2013) #34-35 & 600

    Based on that, you probably should read:

    ANXM Vol. 1 (#1-10)
    UXM Vol. 1 first half (#1-11)
    ANXM Vol. 2 first half (#11-15)
    BOTA: (ANXM #16-17 & UXM #12-13)
    ANXM Vol. 2 second half (#18-21)
    UXM Vol. 1 second half (#14-18) + X-Men: No More Humans OGN
    ANXM Vol. 3 (#22-30)
    UXM Vol. 2 to #19-31
    ANXM Vol. 3 (#31-41)
    UXM Vol. 2 to #32-35 & 600



    Yeah, but I don't know if we can compare the middling finish of Fraction's Iron Man to a UXM Silver Age run. I've given up on it, at this point.
    This is a pretty fantastic write up. Kudos
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  12. 12-08-2016, 07:54 AM #7317
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomSlick View Post
    Wow, 8 years on some of them. Didn't realize that. Thanks for finding this.
    I guess that means there's some hope for that third Fraction Iron Man.
    Ha.
    I'd highlyyyy doubt that. Marvel almost never does reprints of ohc's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thesanmich View Post
    I'd highlyyyy doubt that. Marvel almost never does reprints of ohc's.
    There never was a third fraction ohc to reprint...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ER Prest View Post
    There never was a third fraction ohc to reprint...
    Regardless, I think that ship has sailed. I would say the best bet would be for them to release an "Iron Man by Matt Fraction complete collection" set of chunky trades, like what they're now doing with Bendis' New Avengers run. Which also means the probability of a New Avengers omnibus vol 2 is really low now.

    In my opinion, that is...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rimmer View Post
    Regardless, I think that ship has sailed. I would say the best bet would be for them to release an "Iron Man by Matt Fraction complete collection" set of chunky trades, like what they're now doing with Bendis' New Avengers run. Which also means the probability of a New Avengers omnibus vol 2 is really low now.

    In my opinion, that is...
    I don't think they'll collect it either. It was meant to be a joke. I was trying to find the biggest gap between collection publications.

    The ship has long sailed on the Fraction IM and the Bruce Jones Hulk.
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