View Poll Results: What hardcover format do you prefer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by newparisian View Post
    Got an email from Tales of Wonder that Lucifer omni v2 has been canceled by publisher.
    I hope this is just a resolicit and not an out right cancellation as I'll be fucking pissed. I just got volume 1 in the post yesterday

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAG2045 View Post
    Someone on MMW board posted the new Edelweiss link

    https://www.edelweiss.plus/#catalogID=4486657&page=1

    Looking forward to:

    Superman: The Golden Age Omnibus Vol. 7
    Action Comics #125-143, Superman #55-65, and World’s Finest Comics #37-47.

    New Teen Titans Omnibus Vol. 6
    The New Teen Titans: Games #1, World’s Finest Comics #300, Teen Titans Spotlight #1-21, and The New Teen Titans (Drug Awareness) #1-3.

    Who's Who Omnibus Vol. 1
    Who’s Who: The Definitive Directory of the DC Universe #1-26 (1985), Who’s Who Update 1987 #1-5 (1987), Who’s Who Update 1988 #1-4 (1988), plus material from Action Comics Annual #2 (1987), Batman Annual #13, Blackhawk Annual #1 (1989), Detective Comics Annual #2 (1988), Dr. Fate Annual #1 (1989), Green Arrow Annual #2, Justice League Annual #3 (1987), Secret Origins Annual #3, Swamp Thing Annual #5, The Flash Annual #3 (1987 series), The New Titans Annual #5 (1995), The Question Annual #2 (1988), and Wonder Woman Annual #2 (1988).

    Batman in Brave & the Bold: The Bronze Age Omnibus Vol. 3
    THE BRAVE AND THE BOLD #157-200.
    Yes on all the above. Hoping GA Supes and Bronze Age Batman B&B have the correct matching dust jackets. This will finish Bronze Age B:B&B, yes? How many more GA Superman volumes are left, 2 or 3?
    I do not recall the New Teen Titans vol. 5 solicit, when is that one due again?
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    I'm used to Marvel, where Golden Age is typically the 40's, "Atlas age" is the 50's (Atlas, Timely, whatever) and then the Silver Age is the 60's.
    Looks like DC is taking the Golden age all the way to the 60's... as these are having issues from the early 50's in them.

    Pardon my (lack of) comic history, but isn't the 'starting line' of the Silver Age when Flash came out in Showcase? When was that exactly? is that the date line you're using when deciding when the "golden age" of Bats and Supes will end, and the 'Silver Age' volumes would start?
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    I think the Flash debuted in 1958, just like the Fortress of Solitude story from the same year. I think that’s where Superman’s Silver Age begins. (The Super Key to Fort Superman) I wonder if the first Braniac story is earlier? Batman I don’t know? I like the Atomic Age for the 50s because of all those great paranoid EC stories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Craig View Post
    Yes on all the above. Hoping GA Supes and Bronze Age Batman B&B have the correct matching dust jackets. This will finish Bronze Age B:B&B, yes? How many more GA Superman volumes are left, 2 or 3?
    I do not recall the New Teen Titans vol. 5 solicit, when is that one due again?
    Correct, The Brave & The Bold 200 was the final issue before the title ended and Batman & The Outsider's took its place

    New Teen Titans omnibus 5 is listed for Jan
    https://www.amazon.com/New-Teen-Tita.../dp/177950473X

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rimmer View Post
    Pardon my (lack of) comic history, but isn't the 'starting line' of the Silver Age when Flash came out in Showcase? When was that exactly? is that the date line you're using when deciding when the "golden age" of Bats and Supes will end, and the 'Silver Age' volumes would start?
    The official start of the Silver Age in DC is the first appearance of the Martian Manhunter in Detective Comics 225.

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    Omar from NMC has confirmed that Lucifer omnibus 2 and JLI omnibus 2 are just rescheduled

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    Crisis averted!

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    Huzzah and praise be!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rimmer View Post
    Pardon my (lack of) comic history, but isn't the 'starting line' of the Silver Age when Flash came out in Showcase? When was that exactly? is that the date line you're using when deciding when the "golden age" of Bats and Supes will end, and the 'Silver Age' volumes would start?
    For most DC characters, the Silver Age began with Showcase #4 in 1956, the debut of the new Flash. The exceptions are Superman, Batman & Robin, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, and Green Arrow & Speedy, who all kept being published continuously through the Golden Age into the Silver Age. (Superman, WW, and B&R because they were popular, and Green Arrow and Aquaman essentially by luck, since they happened to appear in the same comic as the mega-popular Superboy.)

    Wonder Woman’s Golden Age/Silver Age transition is the easiest to pinpoint — Wonder Woman #97 (April 1958) featured the last art by H.G. Peters, the original WW artist, who then retired. In the next issue, writer Bob Kanigher retold Diana’s origin with all World War 2 references dropped and other minor changes (like her mother’s hair color). So that’s the dividing line.

    Superman’s a little tougher, but most fans pinpoint the dividing line as Action Comics #241 (June 1958), the first appearance of the Fortress of Solitude. It was soon followed by a lot of the plot elements we associate with Silver Age Superman (Krypto, Kandor, Brainiac, multicolored kryptonite, etc); and while Superman had had a mountain hideout in the Golden Age, DC would later retroactively establish that the Earth-2 Superman never had a Fortress of Solitude. So that’s basically Superman’s dividing line.

    Batman’s the toughest, and there’s really no easy answer. A lot of people point to Detective Comics #327 (May 1964), the debut of the “New Look” Batman with a yellow oval around his chest symbol. It’s understandable why they’d want to do that — it’s a clearly defined break with the stories that came before, as Julius Schwartz came on as editor and shook things up. But... it’s not the dividing line. Batman had already been adventuring with the Justice League for four (yellow oval-less) years at that point, and the JLA are definitely Silver Age, not Golden Age. And 1964 is just too late to mark the start of a DC Silver Age character... Barry Allen had been around for almost a decade at that point!

    People have devoted huge articles to trying to figure out the Batman GA/SA dividing line, and there’s just no consensus, unfortunately. I would guess DC will just use the New Look debut to start the Silver Age omni line for the sake of convenience, but technically that’s not it.

    https://therealbatmanchronologyproje.../thesilverage/

    http://www.mikesamazingworld.com/mik...oy&articleid=9

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lucky One View Post

    Batman’s the toughest, and there’s really no easy answer. A lot of people point to Detective Comics #327 (May 1964), the debut of the “New Look” Batman with a yellow oval around his chest symbol. It’s understandable why they’d want to do that — it’s a clearly defined break with the stories that came before, as Julius Schwartz came on as editor and shook things up. But... it’s not the dividing line. Batman had already been adventuring with the Justice League for four (yellow oval-less) years at that point, and the JLA are definitely Silver Age, not Golden Age. And 1964 is just too late to mark the start of a DC Silver Age character... Barry Allen had been around for almost a decade at that point!

    People have devoted huge articles to trying to figure out the Batman GA/SA dividing line, and there’s just no consensus, unfortunately. I would guess DC will just use the New Look debut to start the Silver Age omni line for the sake of convenience, but technically that’s not it.
    Good summary of this controversy. Yea, New Look Batman is definitely not the start of Batman's Silver Age in my book. And like others, I don't know what issue to use as the start.
    Thank you AMericA for votinG for chAnge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lucky One View Post
    For most DC characters, the Silver Age began with Showcase #4 in 1956, the debut of the new Flash. The exceptions are Superman, Batman & Robin, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, and Green Arrow & Speedy, who all kept being published continuously through the Golden Age into the Silver Age. (Superman, WW, and B&R because they were popular, and Green Arrow and Aquaman essentially by luck, since they happened to appear in the same comic as the mega-popular Superboy.)

    Wonder Woman’s Golden Age/Silver Age transition is the easiest to pinpoint — Wonder Woman #97 (April 1958) featured the last art by H.G. Peters, the original WW artist, who then retired. In the next issue, writer Bob Kanigher retold Diana’s origin with all World War 2 references dropped and other minor changes (like her mother’s hair color). So that’s the dividing line.

    Superman’s a little tougher, but most fans pinpoint the dividing line as Action Comics #241 (June 1958), the first appearance of the Fortress of Solitude. It was soon followed by a lot of the plot elements we associate with Silver Age Superman (Krypto, Kandor, Brainiac, multicolored kryptonite, etc); and while Superman had had a mountain hideout in the Golden Age, DC would later retroactively establish that the Earth-2 Superman never had a Fortress of Solitude. So that’s basically Superman’s dividing line.

    Batman’s the toughest, and there’s really no easy answer. A lot of people point to Detective Comics #327 (May 1964), the debut of the “New Look” Batman with a yellow oval around his chest symbol. It’s understandable why they’d want to do that — it’s a clearly defined break with the stories that came before, as Julius Schwartz came on as editor and shook things up. But... it’s not the dividing line. Batman had already been adventuring with the Justice League for four (yellow oval-less) years at that point, and the JLA are definitely Silver Age, not Golden Age. And 1964 is just too late to mark the start of a DC Silver Age character... Barry Allen had been around for almost a decade at that point!

    People have devoted huge articles to trying to figure out the Batman GA/SA dividing line, and there’s just no consensus, unfortunately. I would guess DC will just use the New Look debut to start the Silver Age omni line for the sake of convenience, but technically that’s not it.

    https://therealbatmanchronologyproje.../thesilverage/

    http://www.mikesamazingworld.com/mik...oy&articleid=9
    Quote Originally Posted by JBatmanFan05 View Post
    Good summary of this controversy. Yea, New Look Batman is definitely not the start of Batman's Silver Age in my book. And like others, I don't know what issue to use as the start.
    Some fans also use the Ace the Bat-hound/Bat-Mite/Bat-Woman & Bat-Girl era as the start of the Silver Age (late 50's publication with more crazy sci-fi plots) while others refer to it as the Atomic Age era

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    I do have this burning question:
    Should I try to collect 5YL run in floppies? The letter pages of 5YL were so amusing. And the original coloring, for sure.
    OR is the upcoming omnibus way to go?

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    Quote Originally Posted by madmodpoetgod View Post
    I do have this burning question:
    Should I try to collect 5YL run in floppies? The letter pages of 5YL were so amusing. And the original coloring, for sure.
    OR is the upcoming omnibus way to go?
    wait, is the 5YL omni being recolored? I didn't know that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by madmodpoetgod View Post
    I do have this burning question:
    Should I try to collect 5YL run in floppies? The letter pages of 5YL were so amusing. And the original coloring, for sure.
    OR is the upcoming omnibus way to go?
    While it will be nice to have those 9-panel pages in a larger format, the letters pages were an essential part of the 5YL experience. Also, the floppies can be found for less than cover price in most bargain bins. If you're strictly limited to one or the other, I'd actually go with the floppies.

    I haven't heard anything about the omni being recolored; I'd be surprised if DC found this collection worthy of the time and attention required for that.
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