DC Hardcover Collected Editions Part 3

[JBatmanFan05]

Hitman by Ennis... knew I was forgetting one! That's like numero dos.

[TheYoungWolf]

Lemire is one of the great modern talents in comics and we were lucky that he even bothered to write superhero comics. His creator owned work is amazing. Whatever editor messed with him should be immediately fired. Actually anyone that caused 2 fantastic writers like Lemire and Soule to jump ship need to be canned. Grrrrrr grumble mumble

Stupid DC missing the boat on locking down great talent. They gave Jason Aaron his start and I vividly remember reading his first book, The Other Side, knowing this guy was hella talented and DC let's him slip through their fingers. How can this constantly keep happening? You have to be blind to not recognize this talent. I mean different regime but they had Brubaker on Batman wasting his time for years doing shit ass crossovers when they could have said ,"Go tell your story" like Marvel did with him and Captain America. So many missed opportunities it just kills me.

lol seriously man. its so frustrating knowing they could've told some great stories at dc that we'll never get. soule even made red lanterns good for me and i hated that from the start haha

I'm not sure that Lemire is exclusive with marvel. He is playing a large role in the Valiant Universe right now with The Valiant and Bloodshot Reborn (which is excellent).

heard good things. i'm excited to start picking up valiant books now that he's over there.

[Hellboydce]

lol seriously man. its so frustrating knowing they could've told some great stories at dc that we'll never get. soule even made red lanterns good for me and i hated that from the start haha



heard good things. i'm excited to start picking up valiant books now that he's over there.

yeah Soule and Lemire leave and we get left with Grant Morrison

[Thesanmich]

yeah Soule and Lemire leave and we get left with Grant Morrison

Such a bad decision on their part. Soule and Lemire aren't even doing well over at Marvel from what it seems.

[kodave]

Such a bad decision on their part. Soule and Lemire aren't even doing well over at Marvel from what it seems.

Soule's She-Hulk was critically acclaimed but it wasn't a commercial success. People also had issues with the interior artist. Soule also basically was trying to polish a turd with the last incarnation of Thunderbolts, which I think Diggle started that run.

He took over for Fraction on Inhuman because Marvel and Fraction seemed to have a disagreement about the direction of the book. The read between the lines there is that Soule is probably limited by what Marvel editorial or even Marvel corporate wants for the Inhuman book. I think Soule has had mixed reviews overall on Inhuman.

Soule was also handed the reigns for the Death of Wolverine, and if you read the commentaries in the hardcover edition, he basically did the best he could do. We all know the Death of Wolverine isn't going to stick. We all know there are limits to how big and momentous you can make an event that's going to be reversed at some point. I think he did the best one could do given the circumstances of the book. And now he's had to drive the post-Death of Wolverine titles which are just filling the Wolverine void until Secret Wars.

So Soule hasn't really had much outstanding work at Marvel, but they're also not giving him a lot of free reign.

Lemire is so far just doing All-New Hawkeye, and that just started, but it already has critical acclaim. So I'd say he's doing just fine.

I think it'll be interesting and telling what kind of titles Marvel throws to Soule and Lemire after this Secret Wars stuff is over.

[Dark-Flux]

Is was Daniel Way who kickedoff Thunderbolts btw.

[Captain Planet]

Soule was also handed the reigns for the Death of Wolverine, and if you read the commentaries in the hardcover edition, he basically did the best he could do. We all know the Death of Wolverine isn't going to stick. We all know there are limits to how big and momentous you can make an event that's going to be reversed at some point. I think he did the best one could do given the circumstances of the book.
Lemire is so far just doing All-New Hawkeye, and that just started, but it already has critical acclaim. So I'd say he's doing just fine.

I would say Wolverine was a solid win. It seemed like it was pretty well liked for what it was and I'm pretty sure it sold well. It received a deluxe version, which doesn't really happen with poor performing books.

[TomSlick]

Such a bad decision on their part. Soule and Lemire aren't even doing well over at Marvel from what it seems.

Huh?

She-Hulk was pretty popular (and they're supposed to start the title back with a "season 2"), not sure about Inhumans as I haven't read it, Thunderbolts was great, and Death of Wolverine was pretty good up until the lame ending that Marvel's editorial department no-doubt enforced.

Lemire has done, what? Two issues of Hawkeye? How do you even judge that?

[CP1234]

I don't see the hype for Soule. I liked his Swamp Thing just fine, and Red Lanterns was good, but that's not saying much as he took that book over from Peter Milligan, who isn't really on point with his writing these days. His Marvel work is literally nothing I'm even remotely interested in reading though - maybe that's why.

Love Lemire though, actually love just about everything he's done.

[titansupes]

On the DC omni wishlist topic (again):

Silver/Bronze/Curt Swan Superman.
Byrne Superman.
70's/Denny Batman.
Possibly Jurgens era Superman.
Waid Flash.
Golden Age Batman.
Moore Swamp Thing.
Legends of The Dark Knight.

[The_Dark_Knight]

Waid Flash
Dini Detective
Moore Swamp Thing
Hellblazer
Byrne Superman
Grell Green Arrow
O'Neil Batman
Fables
Azarello WW
Johns Aquaman
Lemire Animal Man

Ok, that's 11

[titansupes]

^ Ooh, add Azzarello WW and Dini Detective to mine, too.

[FanboyStranger]

I don't see the hype for Soule. I liked his Swamp Thing just fine, and Red Lanterns was good, but that's not saying much as he took that book over from Peter Milligan, who isn't really on point with his writing these days.

Milligan's always been like that for most of his work-for-hire. Give him a book to develop on his own and he's generally great, but otherwise, he's going to phone in it. I've really enjoyed both The Names and Terminal Hero, but his in-universe DC books and Shadowman were mostly crap, except for the JL: D issue that focused on Deadman and Dove's relationship-- that was great.

[kodave]

I would say Wolverine was a solid win. It seemed like it was pretty well liked for what it was and I'm pretty sure it sold well. It received a deluxe version, which doesn't really happen with poor performing books.

Well, I was speaking about the book quality wise from reviews I read - that it was good to okay, but not amazing. It's unlikely the Death of Wolverine will be someone's Old Man Logan or Origin or anything. I think he did a fine story that was a jaunt through Wolverine's entire history. But the scale of the limited series certainly didn't end up being very grand. For a book about the death of Wolverine, it was all pretty reserved and quite understated. But it wasn't bad or poor.

Almost everything with Wolverine in it sells well. Of course the Death of Wolverine was a big seller and got a deluxe version right off the bat. But people won't really remember Soule in the near or distant future for the Death of Wolverine.

But this is really for a different thread now.

[Pertl]

Here is my Wishlist:

DC:
Gotham Central
Batman: Streets of Gotham + Gotham City Sirens
Batman: Knightfall (3 books)
Batman: No Man’s Land (2 books)
Hitman (2 books)
The Question
Superman: New Krypton

Vertigo:
Astro City
Jack of Fables
Fairest
Preacher (2 books)
Swamp Thing by Moore
The Dreaming
House of Mystery

From The new 52 I would also like a WW Omnibus best.
I would also like a Hellblazer Series of 8 - 10 Omnibuses, but this will not happen. They will need another 10 years to complete the series of TPBs, maybe afterwards.