Sam Wilson: Captain America #1

[XPac]

Spencer said something really similar to what you did so I think its going to be a complex issue. I don't think its going to be as easy one is right and the other is wrong. Given how crotchety Steve has been shown other places I expect him to be a little lighter here.



Bad guys wants to kill innocents. Sam stops them.

Thats just superhero comics. Anything that sounds like an agenda is from you projecting your views onto the book.



Sam as Barrack? I didn't see that at all. I think there's a lot projection going on here.

That last panel makes me question how light Spencer is going to handle Steve. But fingers crossed we get a more sympathatic potrayal of the character than we've gotten in some books... even though obviously it's Sams book and getting his perspective across well should be the top priority.

[marvelprince]

That last panel makes me question how light Spencer is going to handle Steve. But fingers crossed we get a more sympathatic potrayal of the character than we've gotten in some books... even though obviously it's Sams book and getting his perspective across well should be the top priority.

I don't think the last page would have the same effect if Steve gingerly waved from the Hellicarrier lol, but I get the trepidation. I'm with you though, I want a fair representation to both. A difference of opinion they don't see eye to eye on but doesn't pit them at each others throats like they weren't practically brothers just a few months ago.

[Holt]

On a completely different thought, a few years ago, when the families of Kirby and Simon we're suing Marvel for the rights to Captain America, couldn't Marvel have just saved themselves the cost of the defense using this version of cap instead? Completely different uniform, completely different alias, completely different backstory, completely different set of powers. I can't imagine that there would ever have been a chance of the plaintiffs prevailing in trying to claim the rights to this version of Captain America.

If you're creating a derivative of an existing character but still using the same name and inconography you can still get sued.

If I created and began publishing a new Captain America tomorrow named Jack Ferguson and gave him a different costume I'd still get my ass brought into court for copyright violation.

[XPac]

I don't think the last page would have the same effect if Steve gingerly waved from the Hellicarrier lol, but I get the trepidation. I'm with you though, I want a fair representation to both. A difference of opinion they don't see eye to eye on but doesn't pit them at each others throats like they weren't practically brothers just a few months ago.

Honestly I don't think even think conflict with Sam is a bad idea at all... I think Sam sort of needed this to break out of Steve's shadow. I think Sam establishing himself as a different sort of Captain America is important.

I just don't like the timing. It's coming RIGHT after the whole Time Runs Out thing. But we'll see... maybe Spencer will be cool about the whole thing.

[ZeonsSilverStar]

Haven't had the chance to grab the issue yet, but that panel of Redwing's approval rating made me laugh out loud.



This is my concern too... I really can't stand to read another superhero beef, especially between Steve and Sam. Probably going to make or break the book for me.

The two will definitely bump heads for the next couple of issues but I don't see it being the new status quo.

[XPac]

The two will definitely bump heads for the next couple of issues but I don't see it being the new status quo.

I'd personally like Steve's issues to be resolved with Sam (and Tony for that matter) during if not before Standoff if that's supposed to be celebrating Steves anniversary.

[Moriarty]

Propaganda this, agenda that, liberal this, conservative that. Blah...blah...blah. Nobody cares about anybody else's 'political' views nor how offended one may be. Enjoy the comic or don't. Superheroes guys...superheroes.

Edit: To be clear, this is directed towards the offended posters here. The comic was fantastic!

agreed

If so I can not wait to see Zemo going on the JJ Jameson's show to accuse Sam being born in Wakanda.

lol!

[marvelprince]

If so I can not wait to see Zemo going on the JJ Jameson's show to accuse Sam being born in Wakanda.

Hahaha. Only if we can get a YouTube compilation of Zemo saying "Wakanda" over and over again.

[XPac]

Hahaha. Only if we can get a YouTube compilation of Zemo saying "Wakanda" over and over again.

Joking aside, there actually is a bit of dirt Jameson could dig up on the new Captain America if the story ever wanted to go there.

[Garbledarber]

A black guy from Harlem isn't a Republican? What! I definitely thought he'd go for the party that intentionally tries to fuck over the poor for their corporate buddies for sure!

[SkyMason21]

Got to read this because off the buy one get on free marvel sale comixology is having now. Definitely like the book, but I don't think I'll stick with it monthly. With the spring event and Steve vs Sam being the first arc, I'm in no rush to read this. Thought I'll probably break and get the second issue any lol.

[Rincewind]

I didn't think that going in. I picked up the book based on brand name alone (Captain America) and got what seemed like liberal propaganda to me. I initially wrote it off as potentially playing a bigger story about Sam picking a side, but then maybe Steve would help settle him back down eventually. But after reading Spencer's Twitter feed, I now can only expect a political agenda, hence I'm dropping the book. I'm not paying money to read that.

So do you long for the good old days when Captain America brought down the corrupt Republican president in the 70's? Or maybe the time the Conservative Captain America substitute fought vigilantes killing illegal immigrants from the 90's?

[XPac]

So do you long for the good old days when Captain America brought down the corrupt Republican president in the 70's? Or maybe the time the Conservative Captain America substitute fought vigilantes killing illegal immigrants from the 90's?

Yeah, Nixon being head of the Secret Empire was pretty out there. I think Steve actually battled a Reptilian Reagan too back in the day.

Steve seems to have his fair share of trouble with Republican Presidents for some reason.

[No Left Turn]

A black guy from Harlem isn't a Republican? What! I definitely thought he'd go for the party that intentionally tries to fuck over the poor for their corporate buddies for sure!

And so the last time this Democratic president campaigned for an initiative to get more blacks into the workplace was when? He's been in office for 7 years now, and found many creative ways to force his will to become law through executive orders. Surely it's come to his attention that the unemployment rate among blacks is double the national average. So I'm sure I must just be missing that major campaign of his to get more of them off of the unemployment rolls and into the workforce.

[macattack]

Yeah, Nixon being head of the Secret Empire was pretty out there. I think Steve actually battled a Reptilian Reagan too back in the day.

Steve seems to have his fair share of trouble with Republican Presidents for some reason.

The reason is because most creators tend to be Democrats, and a lot of the newer crowd cross into progressivism/socialism in their beliefs.

Like I said earlier, I expect Sam or someone else to murder the next Republican president if we have one within six months of his inauguration for "the greater good". Unfortunately some creators use these characters to act out their personal fantasies rather than tell a good story. A Republican winning the next election will likely make many of these writers snap and we'll see President Rubio or Cruz or whoever die in all sorts of unpleasant ways, not to mention Republicans in general.