I think the joker thing was ok, he was interesting (way better then the darn fish guy) and him working at S.T.A.R. Labs was PERFECT, access to new gear, close to cool experiments and so much more. The clones thing though were SO dumb. I dont even remember if there was an explanation for it or maybe it was so bad i wanna forget. Despite how bad it was there were elements for A LOT of potential IMO and it didnt happen