I looked up my name, and "economic issue" or "economic issues" in the search function for the thread.
http://community.comicbookresources....archid=5807315
http://community.comicbookresources....archid=5807395
Most results are times "economic" and "issue" or "issues" are in the same post, although usually not in the same sentence (sometimes I'm quoting a post with one of the two words.)
The only times I used the phrase was in a reference to a Republican primary debate, and in a more recent comment about how to define whether someone is far left.
Sincerely,
Thomas Mets
I get your point and acknowledge that there is truth to it -- it wasn't my goal to ridicule or otherwise dismiss it.
I just wanted to make it clear that "white privilege" is not the same thing as "discrimination against black people" -- just as it isn't solely a matter of economics or "wealth".
Understandable if that's the most common understanding of the term, but that's not what it is by definition.
When you point out that a college education is the key to joining the "elites" in society -- and equate much of said elite status with wealth and economic status (upper middle class, management class, "the one percent") then the obvious conclusion is that much of your argument is based on an "economic" -- or "similarly incorrect" -- basis, while selectively disregarding the element of "race" and the role that it plays in our society.
Maybe that's not what you meant, but the majority of your posts referred to "working-class whites" vs. "the successful elites" which is a primarily economic difference -- just because you didn't use the word "economic" in the majority of your posts doesn't mean that wasn't a key element of your initial argument.
To further clarify -- if you're trying to take the "white" out of "white privilege" then you are missing the point completely.
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I'm guessing he's got enough plausible deniability in saying that the comments were about the British roots of the American legal system, rather than meant to imply that a particular type of white person is superior to all others.
In the same speech, he mentioned obvious non-racist stuff about the origins of the Civil War which also gives him a bit of cover.
If he lasts until January 2019, Mike Pence might end up being our second longest serving President.Though many Southerners try to say otherwise—and I love my people—slavery was the cause of the war. It was not states’ rights or tariffs or agrarian versus industrial economies. Those issues were all solvable and would have been solved. The cloud, the stain of human bondage—the buying and selling of human beings—was the unsolvable problem and was omnipresent from the beginning of the country.
A friend of mine's making a documentary about Universal Basic Income. It's an interesting concept.
http://time.com/money/4786371/univer...tary-250-week/
Charles Murray, a libertarian political scientist, is in favor of it as a policy, seeing it as more cost-effective than alternatives.
https://www.aei.org/publication/a-gu...very-american/
On the topic of driverless cars, there was an argument that it shouldn't be too deleterious to jobs since truckers do more than just drive from Point A to Point B. They secure the equipment, possess local knowledge, etc.
Sincerely,
Thomas Mets
Mike Pence is not immune from impeachment, his hands aren't squeaky clean.
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I look forward to the day when you just condemn this kind of Republican behavior, rather than discussing the ways in which said behavior can be "plausibly denied".
Not holding my breath or anything, but looking forward to it.
With regards to the issue of "universal basic income" it's an almost inevitable necessity given the future of automation (robots, AI, etc) but I doubt America will embrace it anytime soon no matter how cost-effective it is -- and almost certainly not until after Europe has done so first.
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This isn't the best film to choose for whitewashing. The closest thing to a hero in the main cast was replaced by a black actor. Ghost in the Shell is a much better choice to illustrate whitewashing, since they kept the location and names - Netflix's Death Note moved everything to the U.S.
I've never made the argument that every complaint is justified -- just that we should be having this discussion, instead of always deflecting from it, or pretending that the problem doesn't exist.
For us as viewers, maybe other films (like "The Last Airbender") serve as better examples, but for the Asian-American actor who dreamed of starring in "Death Note", this is a uniquely personal example of the issue at hand.
Regardless, arguing "levels" or whitewashing is redundant -- the point here is that Asian-Americans have to deal with issues of discrimination as well, especially in the entertainment industry.
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Er..actually..it’s not..those are two examples of direct discrimation against non white people, without any unearnt benefit to the white majority...if the discrimination against others had not taken place the white person would be completely unaffected.
“White privilege” used in correct technical sense refers to cases where white people benefit indirectly from the discrimination against other races. An example, might be a person benefitting from better schools in predominantly white area where s/he lives...because spending less in schools in other areas has left more in budget to spend on the “white” schools.