All-purpose news and politics thread: Two Steps Beyond!

[Paradox]

Mister Mets misrepresents:

He's arguing against a position that no one here seems to have taken (that there aren't crazy/ problematic Republicans from a pool of 10,000+ officeholders and candidates.)

From the start (and in the intro to every entry), he's argued against "both sides are the same", an argument very much in evidence when he started. And you're well aware of that.

[ExcelsiorPrime]

Nobody dies and comes back to life. They're not dead. That's why they call it a NEAR-death experience. Not that I'd give credence to something that science easily explains away as a stress hallucination, anyway.

That is why i said clinically..because it isn't my opinion but a Medical specialist who determines deaths for their municipality. They sign certificates determining if a person has died. Its Not my opinion.

[JCAll]

You assume that All Christian call other faith systems a lie. I do not. I say they are following their own beliefs..is that so hard to understand? And Buddhism does believe their way is the only way..they believe in a Karmic system where people who suffer are doing so because they were bad in a former life. Do you think people suffer because they were bad in a former life? In their faith, Anyone that does not believe that are lying to themselves..and will pay by bad Karma..and have to be reincarnated to try again.

You don't often see Christians speaking against completely different religions, like Buddhism or Hinduism.
But nobody does intra-religion conflict like the Abrahamic faiths.

[Jeff Brady]

You assume that All Christian call other faith systems a lie.

No, the institution of Christianity calls all other faith systems a lie. And then there are Christians who believe that the Bible is the literal Word of God.

Therefore, there are some Christians who believe that all other faith systems a lie.

Atheism is the lack of faith in the existence of a supernatural being many call "God". Which you seem to keep forgetting.

[7thangel]

man, i know i shouldn't bother and stuff like religion should be separate from this thread unless it has something to do with news. this current convo doesn't

Christianity is worse than the other religions because it's an entire belief system based around self-hatred and worship of the most sadistic and vengeful deity ever imagined, which people turn around and claim to be about love for some incomprehensible reason.

But Christians seem to reserve their most virulent hatred for members of their own faith, no other religion has such a perplexing variety of sects and denominations all constantly at each other's throats, declaring one another to be apostates and heretics, and perpetuating a cycle of intra-religious violence that goes back just about the full two millennia that Christianity has been around.

this is just not accurate

But nobody does intra-religion conflict like the Abrahamic faiths.

this is closer to fact

[Mister Mets]

From the start (and in the intro to every entry), he's argued against "both sides are the same", an argument very much in evidence when he started. And you're well aware of that.

He isn't saying anything about Democrats, which is necessary in order to argue against the notion that both sides are the same.

I'm unaware of any Republican who believed he would be unable to find crazy Republicans, or who agreed to the necessary time commitment to match him.

[Jeff Brady]

He isn't saying anything about Democrats, which is necessary in order to argue against the notion that both sides are the same.

I'm unaware of any Republican who believed he would be unable to find crazy Republicans, or who agreed to the necessary time commitment to match him.

He doesn't have to say anything about Democrats.

Republicans: "Democrats are just as bad, if not worse than we are."

Democrats: "Oh really? Here's some bad Republicans. What Democrats are just as bad, if not worse?"

Republicans: "I don't have time to look into it, and you won't believe me anyway. But you're still just as bad. Maybe you should find them."

Democrats: "It's not my personal responsibility to prove YOUR point."

Republicans: "Wait, did you say something about personal responsibility? I couldn't hear you over the sound of all the Koch sucking & oil tankers exploding."

[the4thpip]

There aren't a lot of Republicans posting here..

I'm wondering why a forum dedicated to a hobby that requires reading, and often following complicated story lines and accepting creative ideas attracts so few supporters of the US Republican party. I'm really wrecking my brain here.

[the4thpip]

From the start (and in the intro to every entry), he's argued against "both sides are the same", an argument very much in evidence when he started. And you're well aware of that.

Now, now. Be nice. I am sure if Mr Mets were aware of that, he'd tell us and not try to manipulate the argument. He just does not know.

Mr Mets? WBE's arguing against the often made "both sides are the same" claim.

You're welcome.

[Shawn Hopkins]

That is why i said clinically..because it isn't my opinion but a Medical specialist who determines deaths for their municipality. They sign certificates determining if a person has died. Its Not my opinion.

Clinically dead is not the same thing as really, most sincerely dead. Clinically dead literally means your blood stopped flowing and you stopped breathing, two reversible things. Death is by definition final. If a person is revived, they were never truly dead. The term clinically dead only exists to provide a distinction between itself and real death, because a clinically dead person can technically be resuscitated.

[ExcelsiorPrime]

Clinically dead is not the same thing as really, most sincerely dead. Clinically dead literally means your blood stopped flowing and you stopped breathing, two reversible things. Death is by definition final. If a person is revived, they were never truly dead. The term clinically dead only exists to provide a distinction between itself and real death, because a clinically dead person can technically be resuscitated.

What did you think of the 40 plus Atheists that experienced near Death and came back changed?

[the4thpip]

What did you think of the 40 plus Atheists that experienced near Death and came back changed?

Nearly dying puts things in perspective? Is that truly a shocker?

[Shawn Hopkins]

What did you think of the 40 plus Atheists that experienced near Death and came back changed?

That your source is from some airy-fairy mystical blog that has a quote from famous charlatan Edgar Cayce on it.

[Shawn Hopkins]

Hey guys, here's a new thing to fight about. No Department of Justice charges against George Zimmerman for the Trayvon Martin murder.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-mar...ry?id=29186648

[PwrdOn]

man, i know i shouldn't bother and stuff like religion should be separate from this thread unless it has something to do with news. this current convo doesn't
this is just not accurate

this is closer to fact

Christianity teaches us that we all came out of the womb as sinners before we could walk, talk, or even think for ourselves. And because of that we have to spend our whole lives asking God for forgiveness even though he was the one who created us this way. Even the supposedly good parts of Christian morality like charity and humility exist in these totally twisted forms. If I achieve some measure of success in life, it's far more humble to claim that I did it through my own hard work, rather than assuming that some omnipotent being cared enough about me (and apparently more so than he does countless other people) to get me to where I am.