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    Quote Originally Posted by ZombieHavoc View Post
    Which by the way....imagine the right wing meltdown if in the span of a couple weeks Obama had mentioned both "taking guns away first, due process later" and that "maybe the US should give the whole lifetime presidency thing a shot some day".

    I do love that the things the right wingers were afraid of from Obama are being bandied about by Trump.
    Well, in right wingers' defense: They knew that Obama meant what he said. They also know that Trump more often than not does not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WestPhillyPunisher View Post
    We should set up a dead pool to see who gets the chop next from Trump's White House. Here's my candidates:

    Betsy DeVos: After Sunday's disastrous 60 Minutes meltdown, Daffy D is the leader in the clubhouse and only one bad interview away from a pink slip. Her rampant stupidity was on full display that night.
    Ben Carson: Dr. Don't Know's office design debacle put him in a bad light, but would Dolt45 have the balls to shitcan the administration's only token (not that black people would care, in our eyes, Carson is a major sellout)?
    Jared Kushner: If He Went To Jared wasn't married to Ivanka, he might already have been axed. While I'm at it, is Ms. Complicit on steady ground in the WH? You can never tell with Trump.

    Who's your choices?
    Zinke can let the expensive door he got him in the ass on this way out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Lensman View Post
    I can't answer the first but the answer to the second is not just yes, but Hell Yes. Expect a lawsuit (or at least threats of one) that basically says 'State's Rights' are for conservatives only.

    That, more than anything else, is why I am no longer a registered Republican. Hypocrisy has stopped being something to hide and has instead become a badge of honor for my former party.
    I was figuring on Walker from Wisconsin to start up something when this gets on the ballot, which I think it will given the fact that it would help the southern part of the state which is farming, and the northern half dealing with drug related issues, as it could lead to something like what they have in California in regard to offenders being released. Not suprising, local loony running for office, Jenne Ives probably will have something very loud to say about it should she get the nominiation on the R side of things, which I really hope she doesn't. At least, with Rauner, I know he's not AS insane as she is.

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    I don't know why....rural Indiana is full of meth labs. We've had some from Illinois come here and then OD. Recently they found 2 dead at a gas station and the car had Illinois plates. How many people have OD'd on weed?
    Not many, unless they lace it with something else. On the plus side it would be regulated and tested before being put on market and such, ala cigarettes. Now all we have to worry about is Indiana and Wisconsin pulling something that would make it harder in some way or another. I'm looking up north rather then across the lake as Wisconsin seems to be more active in the "issues" department, and Indiana is more "we'll do it even when you're not looking" and doesn't warn us of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Maiden View Post
    She definitely had the deer in the headlights look and Lesley was the 18 wheeler coming at her.
    Good Analogy. I was thinking more a raccoon that had just discovered it had walked into a mountain lion's den, but that's just me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Carabas View Post
    Fired for showing vague signs of at least pretending to do your job... That's harsh.
    I swear he's still waiting for the cameras to zoom in on him and the music to swell.

    Quote Originally Posted by ZombieHavoc View Post
    Also, that dude sure is a snowflake, considering he calls for, y'know, extermination of races and such.

    Not really sure what the point of fighting these guys is at this point. America already belongs to the racists.
    1. Of course he is, where have you been ZombieHavoc? He's always been a snowflake, the dudes a flake no matter which way you slice it.

    2. Not true, the vast majority of people are against racism, it's the vocal hold outs that tend to be the problem. Given that more and more people are protesting and what not, I don't think they are winning.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Maiden View Post
    Isn't that why the Ambassador to Mexico quit? Because Jared's been down there undercutting her?
    Yeah I think I remember reading about that. She felt like he was impeding her job as well.

    And with Tillerson gone we're going to have more of an issue with Japan, given that they're feeling sidelined in all this, and what happens when you sideline Japan's politics, they start to get annoyed and it turns into a rather messy situation.

    https://japantoday.com/category/poli...ned-on-n.korea

    Oh and they're also insisting on the whole missing person issue too.

    https://japantoday.com/category/poli...-N-Korea-talks

    Not to mention the scandal going on over there with PM. Abe's wife and all. That's still messy and making for large drama.

    https://japantoday.com/category/poli...to-abe-scandal

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    Quote Originally Posted by InformationGeek View Post
    Let's assume that's "true", how will this help the situation? You are bringing on a completely different person that OTHER countries have not build a relationship with. World leaders have gotten to know or at least, spend some time with Rex. How does throwing out the work he's done with building relationships with other countries for someone brand new help anything? If Trump truly thought this through, he would have had Pompeo slowly transition in and have Rex work with him to get him to know the details of the new job. But no, Rex LITERALLY found out via a tweet about being fired.
    Not to mention that many countrie, from Iran to Germany, know that the CIA actively worked against them and worked to spy on them. So making a CIA director the new top diplomat is... not good. Not smart. Not helpful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZombieHavoc View Post
    Yeah but that's what has happened in all of them. Polls suggest dem winner, RNC pumps a shit ton of cash and then Pence and/or Trump robo call or stump in the area, pub wins, everything stays the same...which is generally shitty and bigot-y.

    Again, as with all this bullshit, I hope I'm wrong. I will always eat crow with a smile on my face if it means one less Trump bootlicker in a leadership role.
    You'd think Trump could have kept the long knives in the drawer for a few hours until the polls close for that special election, instead of reminding people of just how unstable this administration is, and how baldy it needs to be checked and balanced by a Democratic congress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZombieHavoc View Post
    Yeah but that's what has happened in all of them. Polls suggest dem winner, RNC pumps a shit ton of cash and then Pence and/or Trump robo call or stump in the area, pub wins, everything stays the same...which is generally shitty and bigot-y.

    Again, as with all this bullshit, I hope I'm wrong. I will always eat crow with a smile on my face if it means one less Trump bootlicker in a leadership role.
    Well, we got a decent opponent. Lamb is an ex-Marine and former US assistant so that should have some appeal to those who are getting tired of Trump's act.

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    Man, Tillerson is fighting back the tears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Maiden View Post
    Well, we got a decent opponent. Lamb is an ex-Marine and former US assistant so that should have some appeal to those who are getting tired of Trump's act.
    Who said he'd be willing to work with Trump where it favored the district this afternoon. Might work for Republicans as well as Dems.

    On the other hand, The Republican running is almost exactly who you would want to run against in that district.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkspellmaster View Post
    1. Of course he is, where have you been ZombieHavoc? He's always been a snowflake, the dudes a flake no matter which way you slice it.

    2. Not true, the vast majority of people are against racism, it's the vocal hold outs that tend to be the problem. Given that more and more people are protesting and what not, I don't think they are winning.
    Well, I didn't mean him being a snowflake was a revelation I had to day, just commenting on the fact.

    And when I say the racists own America, I meant the current administration. But still, 62 million people voted for them. that's a lot of people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numberthirty View Post
    Who said he'd be willing to work with Trump where it favored the district this afternoon. Might work for Republicans as well as Dems.
    Trump doesn't do anything to help anyone, so I don't know what he's talking about.

    Or does he mean he's gonna be one of the type of dems who signs on to bills to deregulate banks, even though no one except rich fuckers want that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZombieHavoc View Post
    Yeah but that's what has happened in all of them. Polls suggest dem winner, RNC pumps a shit ton of cash and then Pence and/or Trump robo call or stump in the area, pub wins, everything stays the same...which is generally shitty and bigot-y.

    Again, as with all this bullshit, I hope I'm wrong. I will always eat crow with a smile on my face if it means one less Trump bootlicker in a leadership role.
    And I think that's what the news storys are hitting at in general. Clearly even the GOP was afraid of the competition. They were forced to pour a ton more resources into this race to save the seat than they should have when Trump won it in double digits. They had to get trump down there campaigning for him in a district that wont even exist next year after the special election and the court ruling for gerrymandered districts.

    Its resources they could have used in tighter races with less margin. At the end of the day GOP might probably still get it like the other special elections. and GOP will continue downplaying Democratic gains talk and the "blue wave" stuff.

    I think it all depends on turnout.

    It will take an extra ordinary turnout to take it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalak View Post
    More Serious Answer: Savages & Asshats have been burning books since we've had books (Where's that Library of Alexandria gone?) so it's not inherently a Nazi thing to do, but the last large organized political movement to do so was the one everyone loves to hate on: The Nazis. Then when you consider all the ties of Neo-Nazis (and the bigotry they both share) to the conservative movement it's a fair comparison. It's not like there are liberals actively waving around swastikas and quoting Hitler in a serious/adoring way. Regardless, you don't really care about this situation so why bother pretending? Are you trying to be *gasp* Impressive?!

    Less Serious Answer: You say there's no strawman while standing in front of a big one with "Mouth Breathing Conservatives" painted on it. You might as well have pulled a "Mission Accomplished" out of your ass too.

    Other answer: If I posted to impress anyone I'd be slavishly agreeing with every post I come close to liking and not go on pointless back-and-forths with folks like you which I'm sure are rather boring to read in the long run. BTW If in fact you are posting on this forum to be 'impressive' then I feel rather sorry for you.
    The only way in which the German Nazi/American conservative comparison is fair is when a particular conservative has waved around a swastika or quoted Hitler. Otherwise. if you're going to make comparisons based on general actions, then it's just as fair to apply the comparison to liberals who take the same actions. Frankly, most of the ideas of modern "book burning"-- and that includes the jerk who makes the (probably) idle threat in the video-- accord less with the general program of the Nazis than beating up detractors. And can we find both conservatives and liberals who have done this very thing? Why, yes, we can.

    The "mouth-breathing conservatives" was directed at the same poster who used the term "popular comparison narrative," so I wasn't precisely pulling it out of nowhere.

    You're making too much of the "impressive" remark. I'm just stating that I had already qualified my own example-- that of the fans who burned Captain American magazines-- by saying that they didn't have much in common with the sort of people who are trying to make certain books unavailable (like, again, the mostly liberal Wertham). That is, since I'd already made that statement, your statement didn't contradict mine.

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    The NRA is doign what they can to make the kids go away. They aren't. They are also going to keep at it. They were violated in a place that should feel safe from threat of death. How do they not understand this? Hardening Schools is not the solution.

    Quote Originally Posted by Malvolio View Post
    There's an old saying, that the only two types of people who take the Bible literally are fundamentalists and atheists.
    That old saying should be adjusted to say...

    "The only two types of people who take the Bible Literally are Fundamentalists and Politicians running for office, because Atheists know those type of people are dangerous."


    Quote Originally Posted by Kirby101 View Post
    I have yet to meet a believer who doesn't take some part of the Bible literally.

    Agreed. They can't live by the whole thing, so they like only the parts they want too.

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    This is the part that NRA fanatics (as opposed to the more sane members) don't want people to know about. Even the wounded survivors frequently are maimed with horrible injuries by the sheer velocity of the bullets coming from the military style rifles.
    Agreed. These kids should not be throwing themselves in front of High Powered Weapons to save their friends at Schools. Period!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidfresh512 View Post
    And I think that's what the news storys are hitting at in general. Clearly even the GOP was afraid of the competition. They were forced to pour a ton more resources into this race to save the seat than they should have when Trump won it in double digits. They had to get trump down there campaigning for him in a district that wont even exist next year after the special election and the court ruling for gerrymandered districts.
    I don't know that it was largely "Competition". They had a Republican who was running loudly on "Zig" in a "Zag" district.

    You don't have any choice but to put resources into the race when that is the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheInvisibleMan View Post
    here's an easy way to avoid being "confronted" by Antifa

    don;t be a Nazi, dont support people who support Nazis

    fairly easy

    Antifa isn't a monolith, its a reaction
    The real Nazis of Germany liked to claim that they were reacting against the scourge of Communism.

    Let's say that the worst thing Antifa ever does is, say, to attack patrons attending an event where a far right pundit speaks.

    Do the beatings they dole out keep the next Dylan Roof from taking action?

    Or is it just as likely that their "reactions" create the next one?

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