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    Quote Originally Posted by Tami View Post
    How about setting up an immigration system that works, one that works so well that people can be in the country and not be so afraid that they feel the need to lie about it. A system where everyone can get some kind of legal status, even if they aren't Citizens.

    People lie because they are terrified. Not because they are criminals.
    YUUUUUP

    and with ICE putting kids in cages and ripping kids right off mothers breasts, I dont blame them

    but Im sure ICEs current tactics are ok with many so called Americans out there

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    Quote Originally Posted by ouroboros View Post
    So, to draw from recent events, if any politician voices the opinion that Michael Steele proved incompetent in his position, and that he got the job purely because of his employers' attempts to appear diverse-- then that politician MUST be a racist, because it's impossible to critique any beneficiary of equal opportunity without critiquing equal opportunity itself.
    The politician in question would be wrong on objective facts, which must be cause for a strong negative inference. Either the politician is careless on race, or a liar; neither is acceptable.

    Some background. When Michael Steele ran for RNC Chairman, his opposition included Ken Blackwell, the African-American former State Treasurer of Ohio. Steele had been chairman of the Maryland Republican party, and had been Chairman of the Republican affiliated GOPAC. So it's untrue that he got the job purely because of Republican efforts to appear more diverse, since that wouldn't explain why he beat out Blackwell, and neglects his resume.


    Quote Originally Posted by ouroboros View Post
    If Melania were stripped of her citizenship for falsifications, it certainly wouldn't be any skin off my nose. We both know that it's not going to happen, and more, that no laws are going to be set aside just because some people manage to circumvent them. So what's the relevance?
    There is also the point that Trump's opponents typically wouldn't want to use his abuse of a law as evidence that it should continue to exist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tami View Post
    How about setting up an immigration system that works, one that works so well that people can be in the country and not be so afraid that they feel the need to lie about it. A system where everyone can get some kind of legal status, even if they aren't Citizens.

    People lie because they are terrified. Not because they are criminals.
    People lie because there are restrictions about who's allowed in to the country. I'd imagine if there was a second-class citizenship available to most new immigrants, and a regular path to citizenship available to everyone else, there would still be people who would lie in order to gain access to full citizenship.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    The politician in question would be wrong on objective facts, which must be cause for a strong negative inference. Either the politician is careless on race, or a liar; neither is acceptable.

    Some background. When Michael Steele ran for RNC Chairman, his opposition included Ken Blackwell, the African-American former State Treasurer of Ohio. Steele had been chairman of the Maryland Republican party, and had been Chairman of the Republican affiliated GOPAC. So it's untrue that he got the job purely because of Republican efforts to appear more diverse, since that wouldn't explain why he beat out Blackwell, and neglects his resume.


    There is also the point that Trump's opponents typically wouldn't want to use his abuse of a law as evidence that it should continue to exist.

    People lie because there are restrictions about who's allowed in to the country. I'd imagine if there was a second-class citizenship available to most new immigrants, and a regular path to citizenship available to everyone else, there would still be people who would lie in order to gain access to full citizenship.
    Lets' put it this way, if there is no reason to lie and some people still do it, then those people should be vetted extra hard....just like our current President should have been vetted extra hard as soon as he made his first public lie as a candidate 2 years ago.
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    And here's this bit of nonsense.

    Trump claims, preposterously, that parents of Korean War veterans came up to him during the 2016 campaign and said, "when you can, we'd love our son to be brought back home -- you know, the remains."

    The Korean War ended in 1953.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InformationGeek View Post

    So somehow time travel happened and the parents appeared at a Trump rally and told him this. Well...it makes sense.
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    So I rarely post about Trump on my FB anymore. I posted 3 articles basically about him in a week . 1 about Michael Cohen rolling on him and 2 about the North Korea deal yesterday. But I'm tired of any debate online breaking down to someone accusing me of trolling or saying I'm obsessed with being negative about him. Its like...really ...you think in a span of a week where i post 3 articles is obsessed ?

    Its why I mostly post about video games , TV and all. Because it gets tiring to see that defense each time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InformationGeek View Post
    Let's do some math... the war ended in 1953, meaning, the youngest person who served in that war at the ripe age of 18 would have been born in 1935.

    He's saying he talked to the parents of an 83 year old man. Who would presumably would have had to have been in their teens, and been roughly at least 98 or 99 years old to have claimed that.

    Or maybe Trump's just a pathological f***ing liar. Or mentally ill. Or suffering from dementia. Or, the most likely scenario, all three.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeastieRunner View Post
    Tried and found guilty. Then he can be pardoned. Trump pardoned that sheriff before sentencing. First time for a modern POTUS.
    The catch, though... is if someone accepts a pardon, they forgo their right to plead the fifth in further discussions of their case in court. Which still could be even more damning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by worstblogever View Post
    Let's do some math... the war ended in 1953, meaning, the youngest person who served in that war at the ripe age of 18 would have been born in 1935.

    He's saying he talked to the parents of an 83 year old man. Who would presumably would have had to have been in their teens, and been roughly at least 98 or 99 years old to have claimed that.

    Or maybe Trump's just a pathological f***ing liar. Or mentally ill. Or suffering from dementia. Or, the most likely scenario, all three.
    Or maybe Trump knows his brain dead lemmings will wholeheartedly believe him, so he can spout whatever bullshit comes to mind, free and clear in the knowledge he won't be challenged by the craven, bootlicking cowards in the GOP.

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    A Neo-Confederate victory in Tuesday’s primary indicates a frightening direction for the GOP. Yeah, the Party of Lincoln is now the Party of Trump. No doubt about that. What's truly amazing is that Republicans wouldn't let ANYONE else do what Trump has done, yet they've willingly bent over and let Caramel Caligula fuck them right up the ass with a barb wire covered baseball bat.

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    It’s a bad sign when even GOP Sen. James Inhofe is questioning the EPA administrator’s future. Slimy Scott isn't going anywhere as long as he still has Trump's support.

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    Federal Judge Questions Constitutionality Of Trump Hotel’s Profits

    The judge compared efforts by foreign officials to stay at the Trump International Hotel to bribery. No shit, Sherlock! Trump has been scamming the American people from day one of his putrid presidency.

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    Rep. Steve King Won’t Answer Questions About His Neo-Nazi Retweets

    The Iowa Republican has been endorsing tweets from a guy who rants about Jews and the fall of Western civilization. Methinks I'll call King "Seig Heil Steve" from now on.
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    Corker calls GOP 'cultish' and 'fearful' under Trump

    Sen. Bob Corker, the Republican chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, on Wednesday chided his GOP colleagues for being "cultish" and "fearful" under President Donald Trump, and said some are concerned about their prospects in the midterm elections.

    The Tennessee lawmaker said there are a number of reticent Republicans who are afraid to push back at Trump because they do not want to agitate the president.

    "We are in a strange place. It's almost, it's becoming a cultish thing, isn't it?" said Corker, who also sits on the Senate Budget Committee. "It's not a good place for any party to end up with a cult-like situation as it relates to a president that happens to be of, purportedly, of the same party."
    He added, "We have a lot of people who are willing to do the things that they feel are right for our country. We have some who are fearful of upsetting the president. But it's not a good place for us to be."

    Corker's comments on Wednesday come the day after he lashed out at his Republican colleagues for blocking legislation that would have put checks on the president's ability to levy tariffs.

    "A lot of them would vote for it," Corker said Tuesday of his GOP colleagues. "But no, no, no, 'gosh, we might poke the bear,' is the language I've been hearing in the hallways," he said, mockingly. "The president might get upset with us as United States senators," Corker continued.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    Your hostility to the policy does raise the question of what it is that you want. What is the best immigration policy? Should the United States, as a nation, increase incentives to lie when seeking citizenship by offering no penalties for it?
    We both know it's largely not going to be people who look like you that have their citizenship revoked, Mets.

    I don't necessarily have a problem with the concept; I just realize how it will be enforced and by whom.

    Do you practice being oblivious?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeastieRunner View Post
    Tried and found guilty. Then he can be pardoned. Trump pardoned that sheriff before sentencing. First time for a modern POTUS.
    Thanks! That's why I got confused...the Sheriff Joe case wasn't didn't reach that stage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post

    So, taking citizenship away from people who lied on documentation to obtain citizenship is equivalent to the Nazis?
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    One of his cons has came home to roost. This investigation has been ongoing since 2014.
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