All-purpose news and politics thread: Two Steps Beyond!

[jeanvaljean]

Uh, no. If what is on paper is to be believed, not even close.

I am still wondering which faulty paper led you so astray.

[Tendrin]

I am still wondering which faulty paper led you so astray.

The same one that tells him Hillary Clinton is the devil.

[jeanvaljean]

Mine came out at 99% for Bernie Sanders and 98% for Hillary and 97% for Jill Stein.

Then again, my politics line up with my Norwegian friend's quite well :P

I got 97% Sanders... though I call Shenanigans as the test skipped the question on whether I secretly hate black people.

96% Stein, 94% Clinton, 72% Johnson, 34% Drumpf and 12% Cruz.

[JCAll]

I got 97% Sanders... though I call Shenanigans as the test skipped the question on whether I secretly hate black people.

96% Stein, 94% Clinton, 72% Johnson, 34% Drumpf and 12% Cruz.

Do you secretly hate Black People?
-Yes.
-No.
-Shh, it's a secret.

[jeanvaljean]

The same one that tells him Hillary Clinton is the devil.

The Washington Times, then?

[Tendrin]

The Washington Times, then?

Or FoxNation.

[jeanvaljean]

Or FoxNation.

He'd have to print that out to get it on paper. And you know how difficult it is to print from Internet Explorer 7.

[Carabas]

A couple of things. First I'm fully supportive of transgender rights and I fully intend to go out of my way to shop Target now even though Walmart is 10 miles closer.

However that video doesn't tell us much as it obviously comes late in the interaction. The woman is being an utter ***** to the cops at that point, perhaps deservedly but we don't know as we didn't see what happened before, in her gestures and attitude.

I'm reserving judgement either way based off that short clip.

How polite would you be to the cops if they figured you're looking too girly to be in the men's bathroom and wanted to check if you're really a man?

[JediMindTrick]

But you match Hillary the most, and barely match Johnson. I think you should vote for her. Or at least Jill.

78% to 68% isn't a big difference between Hilary and Johnson. What matters to me though is Johnson has principles and will stick to them whereas Hilary sticks one hand in the wind to measure polls and the other out for money from her corporate masters before making a decision. I only agree with her 78% right now because thats apparently about where I agree with national polling on most issues. Should polling change or should our corporate overlords, aka Hilary's bosses, change their opinions so will my match on her whereas I'll still be at 68% with Johnson regardless.

[JediMindTrick]

How polite would you be to the cops if they figured you're looking too girly to be in the men's bathroom and wanted to check if you're really a man?

Look at it from the cops side. Someone obviously called 911 or reported to a nearby cop that a man was in the women's room. If they ignore it and it actually turns out to be a male predator than every transaphobes wet dream just came true because their fantasies of males dressing as women to violate girls just came true and the cops ignored it so stronger laws are needed. At a bare minimum the cops get complained on for shirking calls and doing nothing. If they go they anger the LGBT crowd. Its a complete no win situation.

So they go and the girl freaks out. Somewhat understandably because it would be aggravating for her. At same time though when she starts throwing all the f-you body language along with the verbage at the cops its not going to go her way. What is clear from the video is that the girl is refusing to identify herself. The cops don't want to be there any more than the girl wants them there. If she shows an ID, which granted she may not legally have to, it goes calmly and the person who reported it to the cops now looks like an idiot. A win for the LGBT crowd. Instead now everyone looks bad.

Something everyone has to realize that with the heightened tensions on this issue is that invariably cops are going to get drawn into it even though I can guarantee you its one of the last things any cop wants to be in. The best thing for both sides is to be polite to avoid it blowing up like this because the only thing blowing it up can do is make both sides look bad.

[jeanvaljean]

A male predator in lesbian drag.

Good grief.

[Tendrin]

This is the very definition of apologia.

[jeanvaljean]

"He slipped the date rape drugs and the viagra in his pocket, and the jackknife in his boot. Then he put a picture of Ellen DeGeneres next to the mirror. I can do this, he thought and an evil grin darkened his manly features."

[WestPhillyPunisher]

Look at it from the cops side. Someone obviously called 911 or reported to a nearby cop that a man was in the women's room. If they ignore it and it actually turns out to be a male predator than every transaphobes wet dream just came true because their fantasies of males dressing as women to violate girls just came true and the cops ignored it so stronger laws are needed. At a bare minimum the cops get complained on for shirking calls and doing nothing. If they go they anger the LGBT crowd. Its a complete no win situation.

So they go and the girl freaks out. Somewhat understandably because it would be aggravating for her. At same time though when she starts throwing all the f-you body language along with the verbage at the cops its not going to go her way. What is clear from the video is that the girl is refusing to identify herself. The cops don't want to be there any more than the girl wants them there. If she shows an ID, which granted she may not legally have to, it goes calmly and the person who reported it to the cops now looks like an idiot. A win for the LGBT crowd. Instead now everyone looks bad.

Something everyone has to realize that with the heightened tensions on this issue is that invariably cops are going to get drawn into it even though I can guarantee you its one of the last things any cop wants to be in. The best thing for both sides is to be polite to avoid it blowing up like this because the only thing blowing it up can do is make both sides look bad.

Perhaps I read more into the video than there really was, but it seemed to me that girl was looking for a confrontation, given her body language and overall attitude. It's hard to blame the cops who were just doing their duty and responding to the call, only to find a confrontational suspect, maybe they should've called a supervisor to iron things out, I don't know. In my mind, it wound up being more of a clusterfuck than it had to be.

[WestPhillyPunisher]

Stop me if you've heard this before: a Trump rally goes off the rails with unpleasant results....

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