All-purpose news and politics thread: Two Steps Beyond!

[numberthirty]

You're talking like those are the only two choices I will ever get.

They won't be if you actually clean one of them up.

[Tendrin]

I found performers for Trump's inauguration!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQAKRw6mToA

[aja_christopher]

You're talking like those are the only two choices I will ever get.

They won't be if you actually clean one of them up.

What do you mean "if I clean them up" -- I'm not a Democrat and even if I was I wouldn't be responsible for "cleaning up" the whole party.

Your vote -- or lack thereof -- is your choice and your responsibility.

You can try to shift the blame to me or to Hillary all you want to, but ultimately it's the fact that so many people didn't bother to vote against Trump that allowed him to take office.

I'm only pointing this out so that you might actually take a little civic responsibility and vote when the next election rolls around but ultimately that's up to you... not me "cleaning up" the Democratic party.

[numberthirty]

I found performers for Trump's inauguration!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQAKRw6mToA

That would make inaugurations great again...

[numberthirty]

What do you mean "if I clean them up" -- I'm not a Democrat and even if I was I wouldn't be responsible for "cleaning up" the whole party.

Your vote -- or lack thereof -- is your choice and your responsibility.

You can try to shift the blame to me or to Hillary all you want to, but ultimately it's the fact that so many people didn't bother to vote against Trump that allowed him to take office.

I'm only pointing this out so that you might actually take a little civic responsibility and vote when the next election rolls around but ultimately that's up to you... not me "cleaning up" the Democratic party.

If you(we) had a clean Democrat party where you didn't have to try to make excuses for Booker, Trump might not be holding three branches.

[Tendrin]

If you(we) had a clean Democrat party where you didn't have to try to make excuses for Booker, Trump might not be holding three branches.

Nobody's making excuses for Booker. People are, however, making excuses for why they didn't vote.

[Mister Mets]

And Pennsylvania? Where she had a rally with over a hundred thousand attending the night before the election. I guess you blame here for that.

Pennsylvania was closer in 2012 than Wisconsin, so Wisconsin swung more than PA did.

[numberthirty]

What do you mean "if I clean them up" -- I'm not a Democrat and even if I was I wouldn't be responsible for "cleaning up" the whole party.

No more than anyone is responsible for Clinton failing to take steps that could have won her an election is not my fault.

As for the "You", it is anyone. Folks settling for bought and paid for "Center Right" Democrats like Booker is why things stay the same.

[aja_christopher]

If you(we) had a clean Democrat party where you didn't have to try to make excuses for Booker, Trump might not be holding three branches.

No -- if people like you had voted against Trump then Trump most definitely wouldn't be holding three branches.

But if you don't get that by now, there's probably not much point in me continuing to point out the obvious.

[numberthirty]

Nobody's making excuses for Booker. People are, however, making excuses for why they didn't vote.

There is no "Excuse".

The woman created a situation where there is no way my vote(Seriously, thousands of "My" votes) could have changed things.

At some point, folks need to realize that said tide becoming difficult to turn is not because of voters.

[Tendrin]

'the woman'. Got it.

[numberthirty]

'the woman'. Got it.

She is the only woman who was running for the presidency. So, yeah.

[numberthirty]

Nobody's making excuses for Booker. People are, however, making excuses for why they didn't vote.

As for that part in bold, once you trot out "You can't put "None Of The Above" in office..."

You are already making excuses.

[Tendrin]

As for that part in bold, once you trot out "You can't put "None Of The Above" in office..."

You are already making excuses.

That's not an excuse. That's reality. None of the above is not an option. It's not surprising that you fail to see that, however.

[numberthirty]

At best, I can't explain away this guy's voting. At worst, he's in somebody's pocket.

Still, I have to vote for someone...

That's an excuse. There's no way around it.