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    Quote Originally Posted by mojotastic View Post
    What is you guys opinion about the U.S having an embassy on Jerusalem.
    Honestly speaking? I think it would be a solid gesture of support... had it followed the Israeli government doing something on the scale of shifting it's policy on the people in (East)Jerusalem from "You may apply for citizenship, we may process the application at our leisure or shred it on a whim."* to "All residents of Israel's Indivisible Capital are citizens by default. Here are your new IDs, Arabic-language voting materials, the paperwork needed to opt out in the name of Arab Solidarity(tm) if you are dead set on that." Too bad Bibi is too busy lining his pockets and sucking up the the Barking Mad Right for him to make such a move.

    (*: Mind you, I do call the lack of around-the-block lines at the applicable offices painfully shortsighted at best.)

    As it stands? Pointless gesture until a peace agreement is signed.

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    we should be out of that area completely

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tami View Post
    The Democrats are going to regret forcing him to do this. That is my prediction.
    MN's governor has the power to appoint a replacement outright, and it kills the claims of hypocrisy RE: Moore, but he will be missed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heretic View Post
    MN's governor has the power to appoint a replacement outright, and it kills the claims of hypocrisy RE: Moore, but he will be missed.
    Agreed. I always liked Franken and to see this hurts. I always thought even a professional comedian could be a better politician that politicians . . .

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    Democrats are made up of various smaller coalitions that need to band together to have any electoral power. Tug too hard and their whole support system collapses.

    But I don't want to hear the party of Donald "Grab 'em by the pussy" Trump and Roy "banned from Malls" Moore lecturing people on morality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mojotastic View Post
    According to Minnesota public radio, Al Franken is resigning tomorrow.

    Man that is sad.
    No, it is not.

    It's not even taking things far enough. Democrats could be using this to try to create an actual oversight mechanism with some actual power when it comes to sexual misconduct. That they are not is a big opportunity lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tami View Post
    I don't agree. However, my husband's theory is that the Democrats are sacrificing Al Frankin in order to improve their chances of getting rid of Roy Moore, one way or another. Basically they are making themselves the 'He who is without sin' so that they can cast the first stone at Moore and eventually at Trump.
    That's a stupid gamble. These are the people who threw their support behind a guy who bragged about sexual assault while mic'd up, and a soon to be elected *alleged* child molester.
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    Quote Originally Posted by numberthirty View Post
    No, it is not.

    It's not even taking things far enough. Democrats could be using this to try to create an actual oversight mechanism with some actual power when it comes to sexual misconduct. That they are not is a big opportunity lost.
    we all know the other side won't do it

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    Quote Originally Posted by mojotastic View Post
    What is you guys opinion about the U.S having an embassy on Jerusalem.
    It is a risk that makes almost zero sense when you consider what the odds of any chance at reward will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheInvisibleMan View Post
    we all know the other side won't do it
    That's why you need an oversight mechanism with some heft behind it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numberthirty View Post
    That's why you need an oversight mechanism with some heft behind it.
    or maybe purge the party and the people supporting child molesters and rapists

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    Czech Republic just also recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheInvisibleMan View Post
    or maybe purge the party and the people supporting child molesters and rapists
    The odds that you can get that party to do so is almost zero. Having an oversight mechanism that might reduce sexual misconduct is probably the best that can be made of this particular bad situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mojotastic View Post
    Czech Republic just also recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.
    If Russia opts in this call, it's time to consider the band getting back together.
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