All-purpose news and politics thread: Two Steps Beyond!

[numberthirty]

No 30 -- it's "why do you insist on repeatedly taking shots at the party when it doesn't solve the real problem -- namely, Republicans blocking "progressive" legislation whenever possible".

If someone from inside the party is saying to you plainly...

"The party is putting us into the worst possible situation to compete possible, and it appears that corruption may be the reason."

and you are still looking past that to the GOP doing what it can to lay the blame...

That says quite a bit.

If you want to be able to put anything like progressive ideas into a position where they can do folks some good, it is far less likely that you will be able to do so when a party is taking a crow bar to the legs of any attempt to even be able to compete in statewide elections.

If you don't believe that calling that out will put you into a better position to actually solve problems, that is another problem that anyone who is trying to move things forward will have to address before even being in a position where they might get the chance to do some good.

[aja_christopher]

If you don't believe that calling that out will put you into a better position to actually solve problems, that is another problem that anyone who is trying to move things forward will have to address before even being in a position where they might get the chance to do some good.

The Democrats already did plenty of "good" while they were in office, 30 -- and I now have the health care to prove it.

Of course, I might lose that because of Republicans and non-voters like yourself, so thank you for all of the "good" you are doing by repeatedly criticizing the party that made that possible while saying little to nothing about the party that wants to end affordable health care for all.

Keep "calling things out" on a message board if you think that's the solution -- me, I'll be voting instead of just sitting around and complaining.

[numberthirty]

Keep "calling things out" on a message board if you think that's the solution -- me, I'll be voting instead of just sitting around and complaining.

Ask yourself how much good that vote can do when this is the case...

https://medium.com/theyoungturks/are...y-247f3ecba480

At a time when the Democratic party is hemorrhaging members nationally and experienced eight years of crushing losses, many are questioning how a few consulting firms could continue their lobbying for national contracts. Some answer: just raise more money to send to the states. But it’s not just that these national contracts are expensive, it’s that the consultants’ track records are horrifying.

If the DNC does not re-allocate its funds by cutting off these contracts, banning conflicts of interests and sending money to the state parties to rebuild, recruit, train and organize, the Democrats might be facing their darkest days, with all the money in the world, but no members.

Millennials under 35 have overwhelming lost trust with the party and are registering as Independents. Democratic Socialists of America has record membership meetings. Are a handful of consultants worth the future of the Democratic party, and arguably the rights of citizens nationwide?

[aja_christopher]

Ask yourself how much good that vote can do when this is the case...

https://medium.com/theyoungturks/are...y-247f3ecba480

Nah -- I'd rather think for myself and not give in to fatalism.

Because that's how people like Trump get elected.

Speaking of which, even Cenk voted for Hillary.

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"So, I’ve got all these problems with Hillary Clinton, I’ve got all these videos explaining all the systemic corruption around her.

Then why am I voting for her? Well, it’s very simple.

Yes, her opponent is worse. Significantly worse."

[WestPhillyPunisher]

Ask yourself how much good that vote can do when this is the case...

https://medium.com/theyoungturks/are...y-247f3ecba480

Better one vote than no vote at all, something you're all too familiar with, having sat on your hands a year ago. Has my faith the Democratic Party been shaken? Yeah, it has, I'd be a fool to say differently, but it's still a damn sight better than the GOP who's mission statement is to literally fuck everyone over six ways from Sunday because we don't have seven figure bank accounts, and that includes Millennials rushing off to become Independents who will end up being no better off than the rest of us, maybe worse.

[InformationGeek]

Ssssiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiggggggggghhhhhhh...

Lightweight Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, a total flunky for Chuck Schumer and someone who would come to my office “begging” for campaign contributions not so long ago (and would do anything for them), is now in the ring fighting against Trump. Very disloyal to Bill & Crooked-USED!

[Tendrin]

Ssssiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiggggggggghhhhhhh...

That's Trump, sexually harassing a woman for all to see on twitter. Meanwhile, in Alabama, courts are allowing the destruction of electronic records for your ballots while the secretary of state there thinks our elections need to be more like Russia's.

Got a feeling that the fix for this election is pretty well in.

[Kirby101]

So the idea is no matter how nasty, corrupt and dangerous the GOP is, if a Dem isn't pure and completely progressive, without a blemish, they don't deserve a vote.
Is that about right?

[Iron Maiden]

Ssssiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiggggggggghhhhhhh...

That fool really doesn't know when he should just keep his short fingered hands away from his Twitter. Wasn't there some kind of courtesy where the POTUS, or any politician wouldn't make any political statements while the polls are open? Kind of like when you go to the polls and no one with campaign literature is allowed inside or within a certain distance of the polling place?
He also tweeted this earlier:

Despite thousands of hours wasted and many millions of dollars spent, the Democrats have been unable to show any collusion with Russia - so now they are moving on to the false accusations and fabricated stories of women who I don’t know and/or have never met. FAKE NEWS!

The guy must be getting senile because Summer Zervos was a contestant on season 5 Apprentice Candidates and her defamation case is still going through the system.


Or the writer for People magazine Natasha Stoynoff, who went to his Mar-a-Lago home while Melania was pregnant to do an interview. He pushed her against a wall while Melania and forced himself on her while Melania was at home. Before that, she was invited to cover their wedding, had been to the condo in Trump Tower. Guess he forgot about her.

[Iron Maiden]

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Fox News Host Slams GOP Support For Roy Moore: ‘I Hope The Guy Loses’

Greg Gutfeld denounces the “team-sport ideology” in politics. Yo, Greg, you're not alone with that mindset.

That is surprising. Gutfeld is another in the hit parade of obnoxious Fox hosts but one of the more obscure I think, along with the idiot Jesse Watters, former boy wonder to Bill O'Reilly's show.

[Tami]

So the idea is no matter how nasty, corrupt and dangerous the GOP is, if a Dem isn't pure and completely progressive, without a blemish, they don't deserve a vote.
Is that about right?

If that is the case, the Democratic Party is going to lose out on whole lot of good candidates and suffer in the long run. Eventually degrading down to a level similar to that of the GOP now.

[Iron Maiden]

If Moore becomes a senator, then Al Franken should be able to keep his seat in the Senate. Hey, let's bring back Anthony Weiner too.

[worstblogever]

https://twitter.com/kira_lerner/stat...30834733068289


It got so much worse.

Anyone in for a booze pot for WBE when he has to write Moore’s profile again?

At this point, Roy Moore's campaign ceased denying he was a pedophile, and down the stretch, seemed to be having statements that came out that amounted to, "Yeah, so what? He diddles kids. But at least he's not a liberal!"

I'll kick in for some booze, pot, or whatever else he needs to keep doing what he's doing. I imagine that every time he thinks he sees the light in his quest to dig out from under his backlog, some new conservative jackass decides to drop a bomb and make more work for him. I'm more worried something will just go POP in his brain and he'll suffer a spontaneous illogic tumor or some sort of idiocy stroke. We worry about ya WBE!

E: Wait, is this a real thing? I'm very sorry to hear that if so, my Dad went through prostate cancer so I can only wish you the best.

He's fine. it's a running joke about how his body is going to fail him as a result of the toll the profiles take. xD

Sorry for the alarms!

I have a cold at the moment, but I think I have both it, and any potential ass cancer fended off nicely here by the end of the week.

[BeastieRunner]

I'm surprised that after informing them that one (just one, mind you) of their attorneys is a Jew, she didn't say, "because, you know those people are really smart and shrewd."

And a Mexican mows our yard and a black woman cleans our toilets. An an Oriental does my nails and one them gays does my hair.

Cover all your bases.

[mojotastic]

It seem like the terrorist from New York blew his dick off, not confirm yet.