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    Quote Originally Posted by JBatmanFan05 View Post
    Yes, Mets....WSJ said what I was hinting at: "The biggest question Thursday was how conservatives will react to Mr. Trump’s support for citizenship for the Dreamers"

    A deal will hinge greatly on the reaction and Trump's reaction to the reaction. Freedom Caucus? Cruz (we've seen his). Cotton? What will their reaction be and how will it affect things.
    My guess is the reaction will not be positive. I saw on TV that Breitbart News called Trump “Amnesty Don” after his announcement. I’m sure the talking heads on Faux News will be equally as uncharitable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevinroc View Post
    Trump Ordered Mueller Fired, but Backed Off When White House Counsel Threatened to Quit

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/25/u...gtype=Homepage
    Good for McGahn, the White House counsel,

    Quote Originally Posted by WestPhillyPunisher View Post
    My guess is the reaction will not be positive. I saw on TV that Breitbart News called Trump “Amnesty Don” after his announcement. I’m sure the talking heads on Faux News will be equally as uncharitable.
    Interesting how the framework for major immigration policy ended up being the second biggest Trump story of the night.

    I wonder if the people on both sides upset at the deal will help make it happen. Breitbart folks being upset might bring moderate Democrats on board, while immigration activists getting pissed could swap conservative Republicans.
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    Allegations of sexual harassment/assault have started bringing down some major political figures up here.

    Within roughly 24 hours:

    The leader of the Nova Scotia Progressive Conservative Party resigned.
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-s...iour-1.4501742

    As has the leader of the Progressive Conservative Party of Ontario. This was especially bad timing for the party as there is an election coming up in June that the PCs were heavily favoured to win.
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toront...o-pc-1.4503040

    And finally, Kent Hehr, the federal minister for sport had his resignation accepted by PM Trudeau.
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trud...raps-1.4503098

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevinroc View Post
    Trump Ordered Mueller Fired, but Backed Off When White House Counsel Threatened to Quit

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/25/u...gtype=Homepage
    And then I think, " Jeeez, media. Trump is such a childish reactionary that he'll fire Mueller anyway, just to prove he isn't afraid. Is it this important to keep tweeking his nose?"
    "A happy ending? So unlikely. We're not having a moment here.

    Wrong city, wrong people, all huddling in fear.

    No one escapes the slaughterhouse, and that's just where you're at.

    (You could've asked Rebecca but then Adam stomped her flat.)

    You think you're special cuz you're scrappy? You're deluded, time to go.

    Lucy's living on the moon but you're another dead psycho."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Handsome men don't lose fights View Post
    And then I think, " Jeeez, media. Trump is such a childish reactionary that he'll fire Mueller anyway, just to prove he isn't afraid. Is it this important to keep tweeking his nose?"
    It would be foolish for him to so because "the Saturday Night Massacre" is exactly how Nixon ended up being forced out of office. We're hearing that McGrath would have followed example of Nixon's AG Elliott Richardson and resigned. It would remain to be seen if anyone in today's GOP would man up like the GOP did in 1974 when Sen. Goldwater went to Nixon and told him the party would no longer support him and he should resign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Maiden View Post
    It would be foolish for him to so because "the Saturday Night Massacre" is exactly how Nixon ended up being forced out of office. We're hearing that McGrath would have followed example of Nixon's AG Elliott Richardson and resigned. It would remain to be seen if anyone in today's GOP would man up like the GOP did in 1974 when Sen. Goldwater went to Nixon and told him the party would no longer support him and he should resign.
    We live on an entirely different planet than in the 70s. Trump could hold a Satanic orgy on the whitehouse lawn and suffer no political blowback.

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    On this date in 2015, 2016, as well as 2017, “Crazy/Stupid Republican of the Day posted profiles of Mississippi Governor Phil Bryant, who we noted actually was videotaped complaining to energy company executives about the price of gasoline dropping, because it would make it harder for them to keep fracking away if there was a lower demand for fossil fuels. Gov. Bryant also fought tooth and nail against gay marriage, trying to get a federal judge to override the lifting of Mississippi’s ban on it, and tried to pass a “religious freedom” law in his state to allow for the discrimination of LGBT citizens because of an individual’s “deeply held faith”. Bryant also has a terrible track record on women’s issues, supporting a statewide Personhood law (comparing its opponents to Nazis marching Jews to the ovens), pushing for abortion laws restrictive enough that he admitted he wanted to close all the clinics in the state that perform them (seething when it was overturned by a federal judge), frames the pro-choice argument as “Democrats have one mission in life, to abort children” and blaming Mississippi’s low test scores on public school students on “working moms making dumb kids”. Gov. He also lied to the public regarding Voter ID laws that had yet to go into effect already in the 2012 elections, claiming they were already the law, in a shocking attempt at voter intimidation. In June of 2015 Bryant to both the King vs. Burwell and the Obergefell vs. Hodges rulings by the Supreme Court that legalized same sex marriage, where he released a statement following each. After the former, he was whining about “the socialist takeover of healthcare being forced down our throats”, and in the latter ruling, he was bemoaning how the courts “usurped” his states’ right to decide if they could ban same sex marriage, showing that the governor could use a civics lesson. In late November of 2016, Gov. Bryant came out hard against the “liberal media” and the idea of Syrian refugees being relocated to Mississippi, countering critics who compared his attitude to that of the Americans who turned their backs on Jews fleeing Europe during World War II by arguing that it was an unfair comparison because “unless I missed my history lesson, the Jews coming out of Europe at that time were not blowing people up”. (Please note that the refugees being offered asylum in the United States are not carrying out attacks of any kind, and are almost exclusively women and children.)

    However, Phil Bryant still coasted to victory in the GOP Primary during the 2015 elections with 92% of the vote. In the general election, he ran against an underdog Democratic candidate, Robert Gray, who was a truck driver with zero political experience, who had no fundraising and barely even campaigned for the job. Bryant won over Gray with 67% in the general election, guaranteeing his second term in office. Since, Gov. Bryant signed HB 1523, an anti-gay “religious freedom” bill into law, releasing a statement on Twitter, unironically, that he signed the bill into law "to protect sincerely held religious beliefs and moral convictions ... from discriminatory action by state government." (See? You’re bigoted against him and all the Christians for not letting them use their faith to properly treat the gays as less than human, silly liberals.) Phil Bryant later was interviewed by Tony Perkins, the leader of the anti-gay hate group the Family Research Council, where he insisted that Christians are still being “bullied”, and that’s why he signed HB 1523. By July 1st, 2016, a federal judge blocked HB 1523, because “SURPRISE!” Legalizing discrimination against gay people is unconstitutional. Bryant still decided to waste his state’s money, appealing the federal judge’s ruling against HB 1523, because y’know, he’d rather be “crucified” than allow that sort of thing to stand. Sadly, people didn’t start showing up with nails and boards to grant him his wish.

    The last time we discussed Phil Bryant, we noted he was the one who chose to host Nigel Farage, the British anti-immigrant lunatic who orchestrated Brexit in Mississippi, and Bryant invited him to attend Donald Trump’s inauguration with him, as well. (The one that has struggled to find anyone to perform at, and that has been reportedly having to pay people to attend so there aren’t empty seats). We also got to update the latest on the adventures of Phil Bryant and HB 1523, where he and his lawyers submitted a laughably-deranged legal brief in his latest appeal to the court’s ruling against the law (HINT: They were not swayed by his argument, considering it claimed that being gay is “immutable”.) The only good news out of Mississippi is that Bryant will be term-limited in only two years. Assuming he doesn’t do anything to get himself booted from office or have his resignation forced sooner than that, of course. It wouldn’t shock us, as he seems really stubborn when it comes to ignoring court rulings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCAll View Post
    We live on an entirely different planet than in the 70s. Trump could hold a Satanic orgy on the whitehouse lawn and suffer no political blowback.
    Pretty much. Until Trump's legion of lemmings fully and completely abandon him, the GOP will continue turning a blind eye and deaf ear to all of Dolt45's shenanigans. Meanwhile....

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    White House Spent Months Denying That Trump Considered Firing Mueller

    But The New York Times reports that Trump tried to fire the special counsel in June. Then there's this special moment as Sean Hamhocks eats crow on live TV after having bashed the report.

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    Donald Trump Offers The Most Unenthusiastic Apology For Racist Retweets

    “Here’s what’s fair. If you’re telling me they’re horrible, racist people I would certainly apologize, if you’d like me to do that,” Trump told Piers Morgan. Mango Mussolini just can't bring himself to trash his most important supporters, white supremacists.

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    Trump Has A History Of Being Cocky And Unprepared Under Oath

    That sounds good for special counsel Robert Mueller and bad for the president’s lawyers. Sounds good? Sounds more like manna from heaven.

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    The Mercers, Trump’s Billionaire Megadonors, Ramp Up Climate Change Denial Funding

    The New York financiers’ donations to climate misinformation think tanks are finally attracting the scrutiny long reserved for the Koch brothers and Exxon Mobil. Good! Put those bastards under the microscope!

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    Kris Kobach Posted Partial Social Security Numbers Of Thousands Of Kansas Officials Online

    State law required Kobach’s office to disclose forms with the information. But he went a step further and put them on the internet. Yo, WBE! Something to add to your Kobach profile as that was a heinous thing to have done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ship View Post
    Allegations of sexual harassment/assault have started bringing down some major political figures up here.

    Within roughly 24 hours:

    The leader of the Nova Scotia Progressive Conservative Party resigned.
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-s...iour-1.4501742

    As has the leader of the Progressive Conservative Party of Ontario. This was especially bad timing for the party as there is an election coming up in June that the PCs were heavily favoured to win.
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toront...o-pc-1.4503040

    And finally, Kent Hehr, the federal minister for sport had his resignation accepted by PM Trudeau.
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trud...raps-1.4503098
    Didn't know it was spreading outside America's borders. Interesting.
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    Donald Trump prepared to apologise for UK far-right video retweets

    Anyone actually believes he either didn't know when he made the retweets? More like either way he just didn't care.

    Donald Trump has said he is prepared to apologise for retweeting inflammatory videos by the far-right group Britain First, as he seeks to prepare the ground for a visit to the UK this year.

    In an interview with ITV’s Good Morning Britain, the US president said he had known nothing about Britain First when he shared the posts by the group’s deputy leader, Jayda Fransen, late last year, prompting a rebuke from Theresa May.

    “If you are telling me they’re horrible people – horrible, racist people – I would certainly apologise if you’d like me to do that,” he told the presenter, Piers Morgan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ship View Post
    Allegations of sexual harassment/assault have started bringing down some major political figures up here.

    Within roughly 24 hours:

    The leader of the Nova Scotia Progressive Conservative Party resigned.
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-s...iour-1.4501742

    As has the leader of the Progressive Conservative Party of Ontario. This was especially bad timing for the party as there is an election coming up in June that the PCs were heavily favoured to win.
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toront...o-pc-1.4503040

    And finally, Kent Hehr, the federal minister for sport had his resignation accepted by PM Trudeau.
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trud...raps-1.4503098
    Now who is going to win the ontario general election? Everyone seems to dislike Wynne and i decided to check some polls and the PC were winning in ontario

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Maiden View Post
    It would be foolish for him to so because "the Saturday Night Massacre" is exactly how Nixon ended up being forced out of office. We're hearing that McGrath would have followed example of Nixon's AG Elliott Richardson and resigned. It would remain to be seen if anyone in today's GOP would man up like the GOP did in 1974 when Sen. Goldwater went to Nixon and told him the party would no longer support him and he should resign.
    Goldwater was already Nixon's political enemy - is there anyone like that currently in today's Republican party? Someone who opposed Trump from the beginning, and has enough pull in the party to make something of any renewed opposition while also being too popular with them to withstand Fox smears?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Lensman View Post
    Goldwater was already Nixon's political enemy - is there anyone like that currently in today's Republican party? Someone who opposed Trump from the beginning, and has enough pull in the party to make something of any renewed opposition while also being too popular with them to withstand Fox smears?
    Not anymore. There are a few who come close, but none can get past the McConnel/Ryan bulwark that protects Trump.
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    Jimmy Kimmel will be interviewing Stormy Daniels after the Idiots state of the union address

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    and the Idiot just got booed at Davos for attacking the press

    there's a reason he was never invited when he was a private citizen

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