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    Quote Originally Posted by ouroboros View Post
    That would only make sense if Trump was part of my "team."

    Since you can't keep your own psychologizing argument straight, I'll rephrase to "sometimes a bad joke is just a bad joke."
    If Trump isn't "part of your team," why do you compulsively defend him so often? If you really don't have a "team," why act like you're on one side so often and so seldom on the other?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malvolio View Post
    If Trump isn't "part of your team," why do you compulsively defend him so often? If you really don't have a "team," why act like you're on one side so often and so seldom on the other?
    Seriously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by numberthirty View Post
    Seriously?
    Yes. Seriously. Don't call yourself an independent if you come down on one side 90% of the time or more, and almost never on the other side.

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    Two years ago on this date, “Crazy/Stupid Republican of the Day” posted a profile of Jack Whitley, the former Chairman of the Big Stone County Republican Party in Minnesota whose bigotry went into overload in November 2014 and compelled him to post on Facebook to say Islam is a form of witchcraft, all Muslims must accept Jesus or leave the United States, that the First Amendment in regards to Freedom of Religion does not apply to them, that practitioners of Islam are "parasites" and Satan has infiltrated most “supposedly religious” industries like Christian music, and the church needs to get more militantly anti-gay and anti-abortion to prove to him they’re serious about it. That got his Facebook account deleted, and since he was fired not just from his position as Big Stone County Chairman of the GOP, but even the hardware store where he worked

    One year ago today, “Crazy/Stupid Republican of the Day” posted a Eric Turner, a man who served twelve terms in office over three decades in the Indiana House of Representatives until he resigned in November of 2014 for killing legislation that would have halted new nursing home construction in Indiana and could have potentially harmed his family's nursing home development business. Other than this major ethical lapse, we also noted that Turner kept trying to add amendments to Indiana's state constitution to define marriage as between one man and one woman, voted to drug test welfare recipients (but voted to block a bill that would have forced state legislators to do the same) and defund Indiana Planned Parenthood clinics. Turner didn't just resign in disgrace and retire from politics, he left the state of Indiana altogether... so we’ll also retire his profile at this time, and we'll start profiling a different wacky Republican instead. (Current crazy/stupid scoreboard, is now 554-20, since this was established in July 2014.)




    One year ago today, "Crazy/Stupid Republican of the Day" published its first profile of Rick Snyder, who was first elected to be Governor of Michigan back in the Tea Party Wave in 2010 with 58% of the vote. After taking office, Snyder and a Republican-controlled state legislature abused the procedure of "immediate effect" votes to repeatedly pass legislation by a voice vote determined as "won/lost" by the Republican acting as Speaker of the House at the time. These laws, which were rubber-stamped by Snyder cut funding from public school classrooms to pay for retirement funds for school employees when a much more prudent use of taxpayer money to solve that crisis would not have been to give $1.7 billion in corporate tax breaks while also raising taxes on lower class families. Snyder also made Michigan a right-to-work state, with false promises of job creation that never arrived and the only real result was to reduce membership in unions. He also repeatedly attempted to get legislation passed to start drug-testing welfare recipients, only to watch predictably as the program cost a fortune and drug testing and found statistically no significant drug use. As in, NONE. Which considering those laws are always overturned eventually by courts as a violation of the 4th Amendment, you'd like to think they were catching somebody.

    Anyway, perhaps the most controversial of the legislation signed by Gov. Snyder was Michigan's new emergency manager laws, which would allow a city's local officials to place a lone individual in charge after an "emergency", which in Detroit, was meant to be the city declaring bankruptcy. This was in spite of the measure being placed on the November 2012 and rejected, a new version was hastily thrown together by the Michigan GOP. And, it's that emergency manager law that allowed Governor Snyder to place Michael Brown as Emergency Manager of Flint, Michigan on November 29th, 2011. Dennis Much more, Rick Snyder's chief of staff then began insisting the city's water supply be provided by the Flint River, known for being particularly corrosive, because hey, let's save a couple hundred dollars a year on cheaper ideas. Well, the switch came in spite of repeated warnings from, y'know, smart water engineers, and in April of 2014, and the lake water began corroding the old lead pipes leading into the city... meaning those lead particles were actually in people's drinking water, and poisoning them. Children were drinking the water, which slows their development, as well. Six months later, General Motors stopped using the water in their Flint plants, as it was too corrosive to touch engine parts. As the contamination began to be bad enough that residents could actually visibly SEE the iron and lead in water that was clearly brown over several months... the Snyder administration lied and told people the water was still safe. Internal e-mails however, show they KNEW they had a major city drinking poisoned water for months, and their attempts at a cover-up meant people were still drinking it. The Snyder administration actually tried arguing with the findings of the scientists who were trying to survey the damage that was done. The damage to the pipes would take YEARS to fix. Gov. Snyder's response to the crisis (that he helped create) was tepid, and in the meantime, an outbreak of Legionairre's disease occurred from the river water, leading to nine deaths. His promise to bring in an independent investigator in to investigate how bad his administration botched things was also quickly broken when Snyder's own campaign donor became the "independent investigator".

    Rick Snyder has since been called before Congress to be raked over the coals about Flint, is still likely to get called to be grilled about potentially obstructing the federal investigation into his incompetence, and has had several recall petitions filed against him. Michigan, however, has a nearly impossible process for removing a governor from office making Gov. Snyder becomes the lamest of lame ducks in his second term, and severely hurts the chances of Michigan Attorney General Bill Schuette from winning office in 2018 to replace him (because Schuette has dragged his feet on investigating the crisis and pressing charges). Politicians from both sides of the aisle have zero respect for him and what amounts to Snyder’s shadow government running the state (badly) without much pomp or circumstance that they’ve started working together on bi-partisan legislation the governor actively opposes, passing it with veto-proof majorities.

    What really pisses us off here at CSGOPOTD, though, is because of Rick Snyder's incompetence... Flint, Michigan still does not have clean drinking water, 45 months after this crisis began (YES, that’s almost FOUR YEARS NOW).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malvolio View Post
    If Trump isn't "part of your team," why do you compulsively defend him so often? If you really don't have a "team," why act like you're on one side so often and so seldom on the other?
    Or for that matter, be one who finds themselves claiming to support a progressive politician, and yet argue against all of their actual policies the majority of the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malvolio View Post
    Yes. Seriously. Don't call yourself an independent if you come down on one side 90% of the time or more, and almost never on the other side.
    Lemme see if I have this straight...

    You get to dictate what an independent is or is not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by numberthirty View Post
    Lemme see if I have this straight...

    You get to dictate what an independent is or is not?
    As a practice, it's wise. Those who have a better grasp about what words actually mean and use them truly and genuinely should be trusted more to use them correctly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by worstblogever View Post
    As a practice, it's wise. Those who have a better grasp about what words actually mean and use them truly and genuinely should be trusted more to use them correctly.
    Yeah...

    Bunk. Totally bunk.

    If someone is in agreement with ninety percent of what either of the two mainstream parties are for but decide they are an independent based on that final ten percent, you don't start up the "Who Is The Most Straight Edge?" machine to see if the are more like sixty/forty so they actually qualify as an independent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numberthirty View Post
    Yeah...

    Bunk. Totally bunk.

    If someone is in agreement with ninety percent of what either of the two mainstream parties are for but decide they are an independent based on that final ten percent, you don't start up the "Who Is The Most Straight Edge?" machine to see if the are more like sixty/forty so they actually qualify as an independent.
    Again, trusting someone with a widespread track record of being disingenuous to label themselves, or anyone else is unwise.

    Whether or not they can appreciate they themselves are honest with themselves and everyone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tazirai View Post
    No such thing as Bernie Bros...
    What exactly do you think the label "Bernie Bro" meant?

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    Quote Originally Posted by numberthirty View Post
    Lemme see if I have this straight...

    You get to dictate what an independent is or is not?
    If you're going to walk like a duck and quack like a duck, don't get all pissy when someone calls you one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wjowski View Post
    If you're going to walk like a duck and quack like a duck, don't get all pissy when someone calls you one.
    If you threw out the reality that "Independent" is a wide swath of voters of all sorts of political bends so that folks could just decide that they are right, sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperiorIronman View Post
    So if I tell someone that they live in a shithole cause it doesn't look like my house, break apart families and say that they are a bunch of rapists and murderers with nothing to back up that claim, pick fights with people over Twitter, I.D the guy carrying the Nuclear football with a photo OP, I'm not an ******* I'm telling it how it is?
    See, he is telling "it" like his racist, sexist, transphobic, sharkphobic mind is. Not how the world is.

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    Gonna get out in front of the argument I see coming...

    Registering as an "Independent" voter does not make one's political views "independent" of ideology.

    Also, going to add on trusting people to label political groups... the president saw "fine people on both sides" in Charlottesville. Based on his track record for honesty, and everything we know about Neo-Nazis, he proved why we shouldn't trust him to be the one to make that call.
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