All-purpose news and politics thread: Two Steps Beyond!

[mojotastic]

Have in mind that in Indonesia homosexuality is now a mental illness.

[InformationGeek]

Here's something interesting, Scholastic has been a bit of a dick recently when you read into their Terms & Conditions for their Scholastic Awards. Here's the details:

The student irrevocably grants an assignment transferring to the Alliance for Young Artists & Writers, Inc.("Alliance") all right, title, and interest (including all copyrights) in and to the submitted work ("Work").

Basically, Scholastic now owns the story and they can do whatever they like with, such as suing the kid if they try to publish their own work in the future or sell the story without paying the kid.

[TheInvisibleMan]

Here's something interesting, Scholastic has been a bit of a dick recently when you read into their Terms & Conditions for their Scholastic Awards. Here's the details:



Basically, Scholastic now owns the story and they can do whatever they like with, such as suing the kid if they try to publish their own work in the future or sell the story without paying the kid.

thats soooooo shady

I wonder what happens if the kid (and parents) have the foresight to copyright that work beforehand?

[WestPhillyPunisher]

thats soooooo shady

I wonder what happens if the kid (and parents) have the foresight to copyright that work beforehand?

If they didn't, then future entrants for the Awards damn sure will.

[Malvolio]

Highly doubt for one tourism in Bermuda in only 5% of their GDP, even then i dont think most of the world will care, the tourism that go there only care about the beaches.
https://theodora.com/wfbcurrent/berm...a_economy.html

MEANWHILE IN THE SOUTH PACIFIC


Indonesia edges closer to criminalizing gay and extramarital sex

Prison sentences up to 5 years for unmarried partners among measures being considered by Parliament

Riding a tsunami of moral conservatism and anti-gay prejudice, Indonesia's Islamic political parties appear on the cusp of a major victory: outlawing all sex outside marriage.

Revisions to Indonesia's criminal code being considered by Parliament would allow prison sentences of up to five years for sex between unmarried people. Those changes would also criminalize gay sex, the bugbear of Indonesia's Islamic and secular political parties.

Rights groups and legal experts fear a profound setback to human rights and privacy in Indonesia, one of the world's largest democracies, and the spread of vigilantism, already common in parts of the sprawling Muslim-majority nation of more than 250 million people. They are racing to organize opposition.

An online petition launched this week has gathered more than 20,000 signatures.

"Indonesia, whose constitution guarantees human rights and has ratified many human rights covenants, will be ridiculed by the world for creating a law that is potentially violating many of those rights," said Said Muhammad Isnur, head of advocacy at the Indonesian Legal Aid Institute Foundation.

Majority of parties appear to support move
While the possible criminalization of sex between unmarried consenting adults has grabbed attention, the revised criminal code, which has nearly 800 articles, also contains changes that could weaken checks and balances in Indonesia's young democracy.

One article potentially makes criticism of the president defamation. Other articles could be used to weaken the Corruption Eradication Commission, one of Indonesia's most effective public institutions.

Asrul Sani, a lawmaker from the Islamic-based United Development Party, has told reporters that a 25-member parliamentary working committee agreed on nearly all the articles in the revised code. It and another Islamic party are seeking longer prison sentences for gay sex in circumstances that involve force, public acts or pornography and that is still being argued, he said.

Statements from different committee members indicate there isn't total agreement but a majority of parties appear to support criminalizing gay sex. Bambang Soesatyo, the speaker of Parliament and a lawmaker from the major secular party Golkar, said same-sex relationships should be criminalized because they could "corrupt the morality of the nation."

Islamic parties 'using' issue as 'marketing'
A few politicians outside the committee have raised concerns about the fundamental threat to privacy.

One of the obstacles in the way of the Islamic parties is President Joko "Jokowi" Widodo's power of veto. But with provincial elections due this year and a presidential race in 2019, it's unclear whether Jokowi would risk political capital on protecting a hated and misunderstood minority or being seen as soft on morality issues.

"The Islamic parties are really using this issue as their marketing going into the political years, this year and next year," said Bivitri Susanti, a constitutional law expert who helped establish the Indonesian Center of Law and Policy Studies.

"The only thing we can do is to push the government, the president, to stop this," she said. "Because if we see how the political parties, both the secular ones and the Islamic ones discuss this, I think this draft law will be passed as it is now."

Islamic parties make up four of the 10 factions in Indonesia's Parliament and due to the popular vote threshold being raised to four per cent, are at risk of losing their seats in Parliament next year if they can't rouse their bases.

They have typically commanded far less votes than secular parties, but their concerns resonate with a broad cross-section of Indonesians.

How would they even enforce such a law? Go door-to-door and demand to see people's marriage licenses?

[TheInvisibleMan]

How would they even enforce such a law? Go door-to-door and demand to see people's marriage licenses?

rely on citizens to be informants

[Starter Set]

Indonesia edges closer to criminalizing gay and extramarital sex

Haha, now that's going to be a popular law i'm sure.

Good luck trying to stop people from fcking.

[JBatmanFan05]

Go door-to-door and demand to see people's marriage licenses?

Police takeover of the motels?

[PaulBullion]

10 years ago Obama was in the white house.

Wait, what?

[PaulBullion]

As adults (or teenagers who agree to abide by the rules of decorum of this forum) we should be able to discuss sensitive topics. The gay agenda argument isn't defeated by pretending that the claim doesn't exist, but by pointing out how it is wrong. When topics become taboo, one of the results is that one side lacks all exposure to counterpoints and nuance.

So if it's ok to ask if transgender could possibly be contagious, is it also ok to ask if the holocaust was fake? Or maybe: "Hey, is it possible there is raging fire in this theater? Could it be it smells like smoke?"

The question is not innocent. The question kills.

[JBatmanFan05]

Or maybe: "Hey, is it possible there is raging fire in this theater? Could it be it smells like smoke?"

The question is not innocent. The question kills.

Those questions can possibly be innocent (if genuine and if even better, there was a fire) and save lives. Don't misuse Oliver Wendell Holmes's example about knowingly deliberately "falsely shouting fire in a crowded theater."

[PaulBullion]

What's for a lark mean?

It''s a kind of bird.



It's not native to Russia.

[WestPhillyPunisher]

rely on citizens to be informants

Just like in Nazi Germany before World War II with the Jews being ratted out. I'm sure Trump would just LOVE to see loyal white Americans perform their patriotic duty and drop a dime on those filthy brown skinned illegals from coast to coast.

[TheInvisibleMan]

Those questions can be innocent (if genuine and if even better, there was a fire) and save lives. Don't misuse Oliver Wendell Holmes's example about knowingly deliberately "falsely shouting fire in a crowded theater."

no its not

when you questions someones orientation/gender for your own BS curiosity, you dehumanize them

[TheInvisibleMan]

Just like in Nazi Germany before World War II with the Jews being ratted out. I'm sure Trump would just LOVE to see loyal white Americans perform their patriotic duty and drop a dime on those filthy brown skinned illegals from coast to coast.

worked so well for the USSR as well

whats that old Soviet saying?

"You didn't know who went home to have dinner, and who went home to file reports"