All-purpose news and politics thread: Two Steps Beyond!

[kidfresh512]

Multiple workplace relationships in a short time has always been disturbing when I encountered it in my workplaces.

Completely agree. And that isn't slut shaming her at all. Dating multiple co workers all up where you work especially in a messy ass environment like that is just gross. And lets not forget Lewandowski is married so it was an affair to add to the messiness.

And that's not just on Hope, it takes 2 to tango

[Ragged Maw]

How is it valid? The FBI will not clear this guy after a YEAR for security clearance because of these allegations. There was a paper trail, restraining orders granted by judges. Pictures from the first wife with a black eye for god sake.

Then if you just listen to the womens own accounts. I saw the second wife's interview with Anderson I don't see how you listen to those accounts and judge that all of it is lies. All these exes with the same patterns of his anger and violence in private. But, at work hes the model employee.

That is more than he said/she said.

Same with Roy Moore who he took up for. Roy moore is a disgusting person even if you didn't see him with your own eyes trying to feel up teens. Just look at his policies, the way he talks about issues. That's all a sane person needs to know this is not a good person. But, trump and the GOP take up for him over all those accusers.

This is the reason so many women don't come forward and tell their stories. Even after you get the courage to break out of the abuse and seek help or tell your story that powerful people will not believe you.

If Porter's first wife didn't have that picture he would still have the job. And he would still be a wife beater. trump always believes the men, because he is guilty too. He still hasn't taken this opportunity to say one word about the women specifically or even denounce domestic abusers. But hes now made several statements and tweets saying we are being unfair to these assholes and the wife beaters are going to have it tough now.

Oh, I TOTALLY believed that Roy Moore was a diddler from the word, "go". It was the newer allegations I wasn't 100% certain about (though not surprised they came up, given Trump's rep for being a magnet for fellow creepers). All I knew was that allegations came up, and nothing more. But now, given all that you said in bold, I say let em' rot and pour a shot.

[Ragged Maw]

Completely agree. And that isn't slut shaming her at all. Dating multiple co workers all up where you work especially in a messy ass environment like that is just gross. And lets not forget Lewandowski is married so it was an affair to add to the messiness.

And that's not just on Hope, it takes 2 to tango

I think it was the whole "token" thing that muddied the waters a bit.

[WestPhillyPunisher]

How is it valid? The FBI will not clear this guy after a YEAR for security clearance because of these allegations. There was a paper trail, restraining orders granted by judges. Pictures from the first wife with a black eye for god sake.

Then if you just listen to the womens own accounts. I saw the second wife's interview with Anderson I don't see how you listen to those accounts and judge that all of it is lies. All these exes with the same patterns of his anger and violence in private. But, at work hes the model employee.

That is more than he said/she said.

Same with Roy Moore who he took up for. Roy moore is a disgusting person even if you didn't see him with your own eyes trying to feel up teens. Just look at his policies, the way he talks about issues. That's all a sane person needs to know this is not a good person. But, trump and the GOP take up for him over all those accusers.

This is the reason so many women don't come forward and tell their stories. Even after you get the courage to break out of the abuse and seek help or tell your story that powerful people will not believe you.

If Porter's first wife didn't have that picture he would still have the job. And he would still be a wife beater. trump always believes the men, because he is guilty too. He still hasn't taken this opportunity to say one word about the women specifically or even denounce domestic abusers. But hes now made several statements and tweets saying we are being unfair to these assholes and the wife beaters are going to have it tough now.

And Trump will no more denounce domestic abusers than he will white supremacists. And people who support Trump on his stance are saying that they’re okay with abusers, making them just as repugnant as he is.

[Kirby101]

You don't think the faith adviser story would have hurt the Clinton campaign had it come out during the election, or that Trump's campaign would have done better if the "grab them by the pussy" video wasn't released? Or that the Republican nomination could have gone differently if the Access Hollywood tapes had come out before Trump was the official nominee?

Since his polling among Republicans did not go down after the tape. And since his supporters don't seem to care what he does now, even when he embraces child molesters, Nazis and wife beaters, i would say no, it would not have made a difference.

[JCAll]

Also, DACA didn't exist until 2012...

Ah, I get it now. Ask democrats why they didn't fix DACA even though DACA was the fix, then remove the fix and claim they were right all along about the fix not working. So far so standard. The old "Remove the bandages and shove a knife in the wound, then complain about all the blood and blame the bandages for not working" technique. That's the second time I've fallen for that this week.

[JCAll]

Since his polling among Republicans did not go down after the tape. And since his supporters don't seem to care what he does now, even when he embraces child molesters, Nazis and wife beaters, i would say no, it would not have made a difference.

Donald Trump could dress up like M. Bison and jump up and down on a box full of puppies and his base wouldn't bat an eye.
Good fashion sense! Those puppies had it coming!

[Tami]

Kansas Scrambles To Change Rules After 6 Teens Enter Governor's Race

There are a lot of requirements if you want to vote in Kansas. You must be 18 years old. You need to show a photo ID at your polling place and show proof of U.S. citizenship when you register to vote. The U.S. Commission on Civil Rights says the state's voter ID laws are among the strictest in the nation.

But when it comes to the rules about who can run for state office? There are no rules.

"Under Kansas law, there is no law governing the qualifications for governor, not one," Bryan Caskey, director of elections at the Kansas secretary of state's office, told The Kansas City Star last year. "So there's seriously nothing on the books that lays out anything, no age, no residency, no experience. Nothing."

So into the race jumped Jack Bergeson. Calling himself an anti-establishment candidate, 17-year-old Bergeson is pursuing the Democratic nomination, advocating for a $12 minimum wage, legalization of medical marijuana, and high-speed rail for major cities in the region.

"I thought, you know, let's give the people of Kansas a chance," Bergeson told the Star in August. "Let's try something new that has never really been tried anywhere else before."

[Kevinroc]

Gillibrand: If Trump wants due process, we'll have hearings on allegations against him

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3...he-allegations

Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) went after President Trump on Saturday for his tweet questioning a lack of "due process" in abuse claims, saying that Congress could hold hearings about sexual misconduct allegations against him if he wanted due process.

“The President has shown through words and actions that he doesn’t value women. It’s not surprising that he doesn’t believe survivors or understand the national conversation that is happening,” Gillibrand tweeted.

“If he wants due process for the over dozen sexual assault allegations against him, let’s have Congressional hearings tomorrow,” she continued. “I would support that and my colleagues should too.”

[Ragged Maw]

Gillibrand: If Trump wants due process, we'll have hearings on allegations against him

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3...he-allegations

Maybe if it's phrased more as a "challenge" to his ego, he'll accept.

[WestPhillyPunisher]

Gillibrand: If Trump wants due process, we'll have hearings on allegations against him

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3...he-allegations

Look for Trump to chicken out rather than be paraded before the world on hearings. He’s a pathetic coward who doesn’t have the balls to face the music.

[Tazirai]

This had me with the Giggles.

[Tazirai]

Joe Biden at his worst, THEN he goes hard left to his best. Chris Cuomo is a moron. Centrism doesn't win Chris... Not anymore.

Biden said FREE COLLEGE, that's how you win. Solutions, not platitudes and cliches.

[Malvolio]

Look for Trump to chicken out rather than be paraded before the world on hearings. He’s a pathetic coward who doesn’t have the balls to face the music.

Well, it's like they say: Underneath every bully's skin, you'll find a coward.

[Kal-El Summers]

During the election some people more knowledgeable about Twitter than me figured out that Trump was tweeting from 2 separate phones. Everyone kind of guessed that it was one personal phone, and one for his staff.

Yeah, some apps actually show off you're using an Android or an iPhone device. IIRC, the Android ones were actually him while the iPhone ones were a staffer.