All-purpose news and politics thread: Two Steps Beyond!

[SuperiorIronman]

Remove the capacity to acquire new guns, provide a place to turn them in, mandatory gun safety courses. Also teach gun safety measures in schools, not just lockdown drills. Define what's in use and teach kids to handle themselves. Better yet, a building effort across the country to upgrade school security structurally speaking would go along way in saving lives and creating jobs. "But what if we need to defend ourselves?" pass the tests or use an alternative weapon, flamethrowers are in some states classified as fireworks, swords are still a thing, and it doesn't take a genius to figure out a crossbow if you really need something.

Republicans realistically will give thoughts and prayers for all the good that does defending America's youth. Not only was that a poor time for that NRA commercial to come out but this response is going to affect voters. Inaction is cancer.

[Trey Strain]

this election SHOULD be about DACA, voter suppression, and guns

basically tell the story that the GOP hates foreigners, doesn't want brown people to vote, and doesn't care if white men shoot up schools

It won't work. I guarantee it. They can't be that clueless.

[RumpusMagoo]

That teenager does not have a Constitutional Right to have a pack of cigarettes.

Right or wrong, that's the deal.

You’re right of course. The 2nd amendment is far more important than the right to life. Sheesh, a few high school students die, and these snowflakes want to have a “conversation” about responsible gun restrictions, yada yada! Such overreacting!

[mojotastic]

Sure, there are people that care about training people in responsible gun ownership. Unfortunately, that hasn't changed the fact that multitudes are dying in a country where /everyone can have a gun for any reason/ on a regular basis. Don't be us.

The real answer, as most of the world knows, is fewer guns.

How many of those dead because of firearms are gangs killing each other? Or suicides? Most of them are, no the muder like yesterday or passionate murders.

[Gray Lensman]

but there is plenty of effort by one side to not even have the conversation, and that's where my issue lies

why isn't there a uniform standard of ownership across all 50 states?

The Republicans in Congress are trying to make Texas's standards the rule everywhere, like it or not. Those aren't the standards I want to see.

[Mister Mets]

But there are laws on the books meant to curb DWIs. There wasn't a "Coors Lite lobby" around to block sensible regulations on this. On top of the horror or these incidents, part of the frustration is that we think nothing will come of these tragedies because politicians will move on like there isn't a problem.

There is an AARP that fights any laws that would make it easier to take away the licenses of the elderly and senile.

[Overhazard]

You’re right of course. The 2nd amendment is far more important than the right to life. Sheesh, a few high school students die, and these snowflakes want to have a “conversation” about responsible gun restrictions, yada yada! Such overreacting!

I knew that if nothing was done after Newtown, we were never going to do anything about guns.

[mojotastic]

You’re right of course. The 2nd amendment is far more important than the right to life. Sheesh, a few high school students die, and these snowflakes want to have a “conversation” about responsible gun restrictions, yada yada! Such overreacting!

I think education about firearms and making them a part of people lives safely is the solution. Rhetoric and cliches don’t solve ****.

[TheInvisibleMan]

It won't work. I guarantee it. They can't be that clueless.

im sure YOUR strategy is all kinds of winning

[TheInvisibleMan]

if guns arent the problem, why did a Republican congressman push for a ban on the CDC researching gun violence

[JCAll]

this election SHOULD be about DACA, voter suppression, and guns

basically tell the story that the GOP hates foreigners, doesn't want brown people to vote, and doesn't care if white men shoot up schools

Telling people why you SHOULDN'T vote for the other guy doesn't work, even if it's true.
It just causes people to circle the wagons. Perhaps out of spite, I dunno.

[Tendrin]

How many of those dead because of firearms are gangs killing each other? Or suicides? Most of them are, no the muder like yesterday or passionate murders.

Keeping deranged people from getting guns would stop events like the shooting yesterday. Arming more people would not. It would simply increase necessarily the amount of people with guns who might go off one day.

More guns is not the answer. Pretending 'better gun training' is also not the answer.

The answer is, as always, /less guns/ and a culture that worships guns less.

Australia, after all, hasn't had a mass shooting since 1996.

[TheInvisibleMan]

Telling people why you SHOULDN'T vote for the other guy doesn't work, even if it's true.
It just causes people to circle the wagons. Perhaps out of spite, I dunno.

it doesn't work if that's your only reason, which it isn't

its part of the story, the other half is what you want to do for people

[Gray Lensman]

How many of those dead because of firearms are gangs killing each other? Or suicides? Most of them are, no the muder like yesterday or passionate murders.

I've said it before, that if you want to reduce gun fatalities by restricting a type then assault rifles are the worst category to chase after. Handguns, handguns, handguns. They are the weapon used in somewhere around 80-85% of all gun fatalities.

[Tendrin]

I've said it before, that if you want to reduce gun fatalities by restricting a type then assault rifles are the worst category to chase after. Handguns, handguns, handguns. They are the weapon used in somewhere around 80-85% of all gun fatalities.

Agreed 100%. But assault rifles are the kind of things used in the biggest mass casualty events so naturally they're going to be the first thing people go after.