All-purpose news and politics thread: Two Steps Beyond!

[ZombieHavoc]

Also, Obama should host the Apprentice.

[Dalak]

I think sometimes the press covers things poorly. But the government shouldn't dictate how they report on stuff.

Also, if the NRA wants something, it's bad news.

It's sad how they've run amok on one side of the aisle. They own the **** out of Trump and the republicans. And that's forever.

I just wish they didn't own enough Dems to kill any sort of progress. Of course that won't change without enough backlash to make kowtowing to the NRA unacceptable.

[Tami]

Also, Obama should host the Apprentice.

That would get under Trump's skin, especially if he did it better. But I can't see Obama firing someone on national TV. Instead, he should have a show called "the Volunteer" where people who do public/community service, charity work or other volunteer activities are rewarded for their accomplishments.

[ZombieHavoc]

That would get under Trump's skin, especially if he did it better. But I can't see Obama firing someone on national TV. Instead, he should have a show called "the Volunteer" where people who do public/community service, charity work or other volunteer activities are rewarded for their accomplishments.

I was thinking his catch phrase could be "You're Hired" and each week the contestants do whatever they did on the apprentice, i never watched it, and the winners get to join Obama's Deep State shadow government.

[Dalak]

That would get under Trump's skin, especially if he did it better. But I can't see Obama firing someone on national TV. Instead, he should have a show called "the Volunteer" where people who do public/community service, charity work or other volunteer activities are rewarded for their accomplishments.

I'd keep the name and basic premise only each week someone gets Hired by an outside party while the finalist gets to work directly with Obama. It would perfectly encapsulate how anti-worker Trump is and always has been.

E: Zombie Havoc beat me, but the point remains.

[WestPhillyPunisher]

Oh god, the NRA is going crazier now.



So they want the government to interfere in the freedom of the press. Also, they want the news to stop reporting on mass shootings. Yeah, that's crazy.

No, that’s THIS week’s dose of insanity from these loons. Can’t wait to see what they unleash NEXT week.

[JBatmanFan05]

Instead, he should have a show called "the Volunteer" where people who do public/community service, charity work or other volunteer activities are rewarded for their accomplishments.

Yeah. And they could create the Puppies And Rainbows channel and show it on there.

[Kal-El Summers]

What's amazing is that the NRA won't even put crazy ass Dana out there to promote this ****. They put their Sunken Place Brotha out there to catch all the fire, lol.

[KOSLOX]

What's amazing is that the NRA won't even put crazy ass Dana out there to promote this ****. They put their Sunken Place Brotha out there to catch all the fire, lol.

Well obviously, if someone is going to take fire we know who the NRA prefers.

[ZombieHavoc]

Yeah. And they could create the Puppies And Rainbows channel and show it on there.

I don't think Pureflix would take kindly to Obama's pro-choice stance.

[WestPhillyPunisher]

What's amazing is that the NRA won't even put crazy ass Dana out there to promote this ****. They put their Sunken Place Brotha out there to catch all the fire, lol.

Maybe Demolition Dana was out polishing her M-16 at the time.

[Michael Watkins]

Remember when Obama pardoned Jack Johnson? Me neither. I guess poor Jack didn't aid the enemy via espionage enough to warrant pardon. Nor was Jack an attempted prison escaper and seditious bomber.

remember the central park five?

[Mister Mets]

Remember when Obama pardoned Jack Johnson? Me neither. I guess poor Jack didn't aid the enemy via espionage enough to warrant pardon. Nor was Jack an attempted prison escaper and seditious bomber.

Did Obama give anyone posthumous pardons? It seems to be quite rare.

[Tami]

Did Obama give anyone posthumous pardons? It seems to be quite rare.

Trump Might Pardon Jack Johnson. Why Didn’t Obama?

Gavin Parke, a former senior leadership staffer for Reid, said that his early impression was Obama didn’t want to act on Johnson out of political discomfort. “[R]eading between the lines,” he emailed The Daily Beast, “our conjecture was that they didn’t want to engage in divisive racial issues that were largely symbolic.” But the main reason that Obama held back, Parke added, was out of a rigid dedication to preserving norms. “The Obama White House was stringently opposed to the pardons process becoming politicized in any way. They felt so strongly about that, it may have extended even to posthumous pardons.”

Such a position seems, as one Obama veteran conceded, “quaint” in the Trump years. But it was a thing. As one senior official, who asked to speak on background not to characterize the president’s thinking, put it: “President Obama relied on the Department of Justice to make recommendations and it is against DOJ’s general policy to accept posthumous pardons.”

When he was pressed on the matter in 2016, former Attorney General Eric Holder conceded that posthumous pardons are, in fact, given; but that they “are very rarely done.” He then offered a slightly more nuanced explanation as to why Obama never offered Johnson a pardon; mainly, that while Johnson was clearly a victim of racism, he also had some flaws.

“Jack Johnson,” said the man who’d been the nation’s top legal authority from 2007 to 2015, “no question was convicted unfairly. That might be a historical injustice that might need to be rethought.”

However, he added, “there are on the other side, countervailing concerns about the way [Johnson] treated women, physically treated women. So all of this has to be balanced before this president or his successor would make a determination that a pardon is appropriate.”

[KNIGHT OF THE LAKE]

Yeah that’s the thing. While Johnson was unjustly convicted, he also was a kinda crappy person who was reportedly very abusive to his wives. So it’s a fine line. But historically it is significant