All-purpose news and politics thread: Two Steps Beyond!

[PaulBullion]

Eric Holder is considering a run for president.

[numberthirty]

She campaigned with pneumonia until she collapsed. Everything you wrote about Hillary there is bullshit.

It's really not.

- Kaine was far from the best pick she could have made.
- She thought she had a "Blue Wall". Tim Tuten from the Obama administration said that they never canvased Wisconsin because HRC's people said it was "Covered".

That pair points to that what Jack said was anything but bull.

[Tami]

Eric Holder is considering a run for president.

25% of the people being interviewed on News Stations are asked if they are running for president.

[JackDaw]

She campaigned with pneumonia until she collapsed. Everything you wrote about Hillary there is bullshit.

Not at all. She wasn’t youthful, so couldn’t contrast his age. She was compromised by having a philandering husband and so couldn’t really attack the Donald’s way with women. She seemed over confident in not targeting key states, and not selecting a VP more likely to get votes.

She as well as Bill had made themselves seriously rich while being career politicians, and had been associated with some scandals. She was ideal opponent to allow Trump to play “crooked politician/ honest businessman” card.

You won’t want to hear it...but many serious political commentators in UK, were almost as puzzled that Democrats choose Hilary as Republicans chose Donald T.

But more important are any bookies offering odds on the Donald not serving a second term? If so, what are they?

[ZombieHavoc]

People who think if Hillary went to Wisconsin it would have made a difference are weird.

[numberthirty]

People who think if Hillary went to Wisconsin it would have made a difference are weird.

Not as weird as people who think you just take votes for granted.

[Carabas]

It's really not.

- Kaine was far from the best pick she could have made.
- She thought she had a "Blue Wall". Tim Tuten from the Obama administration said that they never canvased Wisconsin because HRC's people said it was "Covered".

That pair points to that what Jack said was anything but bull.

And up unto Comey did his little stunt, it was covered. You can't plan for shit like that.

[aja_christopher]

It's now official that the elections were swung in Trump's favor by the Russians -- including by dividing the Democrats over Hillary, especially with Sanders supporters -- so it's stupid (or impractical if you prefer) to even argue the viability of Hillary's candidacy given that the election was unfairly biased against her to begin with.

It's an unknown whether she would have won without said illegal interference -- and it always will be.

[ZombieHavoc]

Not as weird as people who think you just take votes for granted.

Same amount of weird.

"She shoulda gone to Wisconsin" is such a tired point, and it is....it so wouldn't have changed a thing, to the point that who gives a fuck.

If it takes you seeing Hillary Clinton's face in person in your own home state to think maybe Trump is a terrible person...that's weird logic.

Granted, the American electorate is dumb as hell, so who knows.

[numberthirty]

And up unto Comey did his little stunt, it was covered. You can't plan for shit like that.

If you never set foot in a state that repeated the statewide results in each of Walker's runs/recall, you assumed it was covered. Actual reality point to that it was only "Covered" in people's mistaken assumptions.

Never mind how close that state has been on multiple occasions.

[Carabas]

If you never set foot in a state that repeated the statewide results in each of Walker's runs/recall, you assumed it was covered. Actual reality point to that it was only "Covered" in people's mistaken assumptions.

Never mind how close that state has been on multiple occasions.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/hillar...17-9?r=US&IR=T

[Trey Strain]

Not at all. She wasn’t youthful, so couldn’t contrast his age. She was compromised by having a philandering husband and so couldn’t really attack the Donald’s way with women. She seemed over confident in not targeting key states, and not selecting a VP more likely to get votes.

She as well as Bill had made themselves seriously rich while being career politicians, and had been associated with some scandals. She was ideal opponent to allow Trump to play “crooked politician/ honest businessman” card.

You won’t want to hear it...but many serious political commentators in UK, were almost as puzzled that Democrats choose Hilary as Republicans chose Donald T.

But more important are any bookies offering odds on the Donald not serving a second term? If so, what are they?

You're on point with that stuff.

Here's why Hillary got the nomination, and why nobody should bet against her getting it in 2020. It's because in 1992, many Americans decided that she would become the first female president, and they've never wavered from that goal.

There are still a lot of powerful people who want her to win. Those people are from Wall Street and the business community in general, from the news and entertainment media, from the party leadership, and from women's groups. Nobody else who might run has any similar support. And nobody else can command the media attention or raise the money that she can.

A prediction? I think the Republicans will suffer a pasting in the midterms, and most people will assume that Trump is on the way out. But then the Democrats will have to find someone who can actually beat him in 2020. And they won't find anyone.

[PaulBullion]

Can I interrupt the 11 millionth assassination off Hillary's character to let you all know that Trump invited Putin to the White House?

[ouroboros]

or, said another way, he's a troll.

Na na na na na na.

[zinderel]

Can I interrupt the 11 millionth assassination off Hillary's character to let you all know that Trump invited Putin to the White House?

I wonder if he's aware how limited his time is, and is just gonna try to hand the Presidency to Putin, as if this were some olden times feifdom...

I'm only partly joking, there...