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    Quote Originally Posted by CliffHanger2 View Post
    Yeah Lena's turn is looking kinda dumb. But isn't that what evil ppl do? Rationalize their actions with ridiculous reasons. " you didn't tell me you were superior so now I'm gonna create mind control devices and leave you trapped in kryptonite"
    Okay, but do evil people become evil (after decades of being good) over something stupid as Kara's well-intentioned silence regarding her true identity?
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    What really annoys me about this is that after Lena confessed that she was using Kara, after she stole Myriad, which caused so many problems back in Season 1, and after she hijacked the Fortress and used it to trap Kara in a KRYPTONITE BARRIER, logic dictates that Kara should be angry, and should want to go after Lena and imprison her at least for a time, if only to stop her from making an even bigger mistake. And she should be furious about Lena using Kryptonite against her. But no, the writers will have Kara be all weepy and still defend Lena. Ugh.

    Also, if Myriad was the one weapon in that room that Kara wished she could destroy, WHY DIDN'T SHE DESTROY IT?! There was literally nothing stopping her from doing that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnakinFlair View Post
    What really annoys me about this is that after Lena confessed that she was using Kara, after she stole Myriad, which caused so many problems back in Season 1, and after she hijacked the Fortress and used it to trap Kara in a KRYPTONITE BARRIER, logic dictates that Kara should be angry, and should want to go after Lena and imprison her at least for a time, if only to stop her from making an even bigger mistake. And she should be furious about Lena using Kryptonite against her. But no, the writers will have Kara be all weepy and still defend Lena. Ugh.

    Also, if Myriad was the one weapon in that room that Kara wished she could destroy, WHY DIDN'T SHE DESTROY IT?! There was literally nothing stopping her from doing that.
    Unless we assume the El's are crazy people who keep dangerous weapons around as trophies just for the heck of it, maybe the devices are made of materials that make them difficult to destroy through conventional means.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Darknight Detective View Post
    Okay, but do evil people become evil (after decades of being good) over something stupid as Kara's well-intentioned silence regarding her true identity?
    Yeah but they were never really good. Just pretending Kara's first instinct not to tell Lena was right. But she's so naive she feels guilty even tho Lena went way beyond feeling betrayed.

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    Jesus, what is it with this season and the feels?

    Most emotional episode ever. I actually cried when J'onn and Malefic embraced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CliffHanger2 View Post
    Yeah but they were never really good. Just pretending Kara's first instinct not to tell Lena was right. But she's so naive she feels guilty even tho Lena went way beyond feeling betrayed.
    If there's actual evidence of Lena pretending to be good up to now, sure, but I don't recall seeing it. She definitely had many chances to go to the Dark Side in previous seasons with her family, yet didn't. At any rate, I do agree Kara is naive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Darknight Detective View Post
    If there's actual evidence of Lena pretending to be good up to now, sure, but I don't recall seeing it. She definitely had many chances to go to the Dark Side in previous seasons with her family, yet didn't. At any rate, I do agree Kara is naive.
    Maybe pretend isn't the right word. It's like she was always looking for some validation. Trying to prove she wasn't like the other Luthors or having relationships with ppl in supergirl's circle. Never really doing it for the right reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CliffHanger2 View Post
    Maybe pretend isn't the right word. It's like she was always looking for some validation. Trying to prove she wasn't like the other Luthors or having relationships with ppl in supergirl's circle. Never really doing it for the right reasons.
    IOW, she needs psychiatric help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Darknight Detective View Post
    IOW, she needs psychiatric help.
    Not all her fault it runs in the family lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anarchist View Post
    Jesus, what is it with this season and the feels?

    Most emotional episode ever. I actually cried when J'onn and Malefic embraced.
    I did really like that. I'd like to think that they'll keep Malafek around for a while and team him with his brother; but honestly I'm expecting him to die in the Crisis.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Unless we assume the El's are crazy people who keep dangerous weapons around as trophies just for the heck of it, maybe the devices are made of materials that make them difficult to destroy through conventional means.
    She could literally toss it into the sun. Or at least into deep space. Or even into a volcano.

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    So...is Brainy a fan of Avatar the Last Airbender, then?

    J'onn and Malefic...wow. With Martians and their telepathy, you'd think forgiveness would be easy because you can look into each other's minds and hearts. I hope this reconciliation is genuine. I haven't seen Phil LaMar play such a serious role (in live action, anyway), and I was impressed!

    I really like how Lena's story is advancing. Her being evil isn't just because of Supergirl having kept secrets from her, it's because Lena thinks she can only rely on herself. Lena doesn't think of herself as evil, and so far, she has only directly hurt bad guys or acted for the greater good. She isn't above threats or manipulation, but she isn't about greed and ego like Lex. Kara is just the latest in a long line of people who she doesn't feel she can trust, which drives her further away from any kind of emotional attachment. Even if Kara had been honest with her about her dual identity, I still think Lena would be doing morally questionable things because she tells herself it's the right thing to do. It's heartbreaking to think that she is so damaged that an otherwise well meaning person can be this close to villainy.

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    I know that Mitch Pillegi had a long run on Stargate Atlantis, and X-Files was technically a sci-fi show, but seeing him in a costume playing an alien bad guy is just WEIRD
    It is weird. And I keep forgetting he voiced Commissioner Gordon on The Batman.

    Quote Originally Posted by AnakinFlair View Post
    For the record- for season 4, Manchester Black was good to a point, but felt like he was wasted. Agent Liberty started to overstay his welcome until Luthor tried to have him killed, and it got a little too preachy for me at times. That said, Lex redeemed all of that (taking out the Kaznians in his suit while belting out Sinatra's 'My Way' was BRILLIANT), and while I think I wanted more of him, I also think they used him just the right amount.
    Agreed about Manchester Black. His end was too abrupt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnakinFlair View Post
    Also, if Myriad was the one weapon in that room that Kara wished she could destroy, WHY DIDN'T SHE DESTROY IT?! There was literally nothing stopping her from doing that.
    What was the Myriad device doing in the Fortress of Solitude in the first place? Supergirl tossed Fort Rozz into outer space because that was the only way to keep Myriad from frying the humans' brains.
    And then Supergirl passed out due to lack of air and was retrieved by Alex. So when and why would anyone have removed the Myriad device from Fort Rozz. Supergirl did visit Fort Rozz to talk to
    Jindah Kol Rozz. But they seemed pretty busy dealing with Reign so why take the time to stick around and search for the Myriad device especially after one of them already got killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnakinFlair View Post
    I know that Mitch Pillegi had a long run on Stargate Atlantis, and X-Files was technically a sci-fi show, but seeing him in a costume playing an alien bad guy is just WEIRD.
    What about this costume?p11945_p_v8_aa.jpg

    Quote Originally Posted by Osiris-Rex View Post
    What was the Myriad device doing in the Fortress of Solitude in the first place?
    My take on the whole thing is that Superman's the one keeping trophies and Kara didn't want to offend him by destroying the stuff he's holding onto for safekeeping. Remember when the Supes were all upset at the DEO for having any Kryptonite at all? Hmm....

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Darknight Detective View Post
    Okay, but do evil people become evil (after decades of being good) over something stupid as Kara's well-intentioned silence regarding her true identity?
    It's a Luther trait. Lex Luther hated Superman for accidentally making him bald (even though he really rocked that look).
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    Quote Originally Posted by CliffHanger2 View Post
    Not all her fault it runs in the family lol.
    But she's adopted, right? So it can't be genetic!
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