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    Got my signal back....


    Just like that, I like Otis. Especially him saving the kid, but all around this episode.

    Cryer continues to astound as Lex. From busting out the suit at the beginning of the episode, to his manipulating Red Daughter, to the way he just casually comes to the conclusion 'I need to give myself cancer.' to get Lena to work with him.

    I'm a bit puzzled by something- Lex has powers, but I thought the Harun-el he helped to stabilize was only to heal, not give powers. So how does he have powers now because of it?

    NICE suit.

    I wonder how complicit the President is with Lex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Smith View Post
    Oh, if you want to make sure you kill Olsen - just don't shoot him once in the back.
    Obviously, killing him wasn't the plan.

    Is it just me, or when the Lex hologram showed up at Lena's, I thought he had given himself Dr Manhattan powers at first?

    I think Cryer's doing a great job so far and I can appreciate the scope of Lex's manipulations, but he went through all that to get Lena to perfect the serum so that he could save Red Kara? He already had Tessmacher in her lab - couldn't he have gotten all her data, samples, etc and taken it to the finish line himself if he's such the Kryptonite expert? I don't think we saw him admit to not being able to do it.

    The way this show has been taking cues from the Donner movies, I expect to see Lex in the Fortress of Solitude soon.

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    This episode is my new favorite one. Cryer and benoist gave absolutely flawless performances.

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    SO where is metropolis in relation to national city? That rooftop fight on the daily planet made me wonder what happened to the globe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by protege View Post
    SO where is metropolis in relation to national city?
    There are palm trees, and it's a coastal city, so California I assume.

    (Of course, those things could just be there because.)

    And outside of Smallville, Metropolis is always a northeastern city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j9ac9k View Post
    Obviously, killing him wasn't the plan.

    Is it just me, or when the Lex hologram showed up at Lena's, I thought he had given himself Dr Manhattan powers at first?

    I think Cryer's doing a great job so far and I can appreciate the scope of Lex's manipulations, but he went through all that to get Lena to perfect the serum so that he could save Red Kara? He already had Tessmacher in her lab - couldn't he have gotten all her data, samples, etc and taken it to the finish line himself if he's such the Kryptonite expert? I don't think we saw him admit to not being able to do it.

    The way this show has been taking cues from the Donner movies, I expect to see Lex in the Fortress of Solitude soon.
    What I want to know, is why didn't Lena suspect something more when Lex shows up as a hologram in a suit. Does she think that holo-calls from prison are normal?

    As for the serum, while Eve could have gotten everything that Lex needed for him to do the work, I think he realized that maybe he wouldn't be able to finish the serum by himself in enough time to save Red Kara. By working with Lena, he cut the time to complete the serum down to a fraction of what it would have been.

    Side note- I'd love for Lex to come up with a Red Kryptonite for humans that he could use on Lena to turn her evil. I'd kind of love to see what kind of plans the trio of Lex, Lena, and Lillian could come up with.

    I don't think they'll have Lex in the fortress, if only because they already had Manchester break in a few episodes ago.

    Lex knowing Supergirl's identity does raise the question- does he know who Superman is, then?

    So- what's in the earrings? Kryptonite? Some kind of mind control device? The way they focused on them means they have to come back into play later.

    Also- how exactly did regular Kara get her ears pierced in the first place? It would be hilarious if Kara was actually wearing magnetic earrings or clip-ons, and that is how the two Supergirl's are ultimately told apart.

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    I think Kara had her ears pierced while she was still a child on Krypton.
    Kara has some sort of communications device built into her earrings. Notice how she sometimes touches her ear when she first starts talking to someone while flying?
    I am guessing Kasnian Supergirl's earrings are also some sort of comm device. Maybe also a method Lex can use to control her. Emits a high pitched sound or something.

    Loved that Linda Lee was the Kasnian Supergirl's alias.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Osiris-Rex View Post
    I think Kara had her ears pierced while she was still a child on Krypton.
    Kara has some sort of communications device built into her earrings. Notice how she sometimes touches her ear when she first starts talking to someone while flying?
    I am guessing Kasnian Supergirl's earrings are also some sort of comm device. Maybe also a method Lex can use to control her. Emits a high pitched sound or something.

    Loved that Linda Lee was the Kasnian Supergirl's alias.
    I enjoyed her alias as well. I also loved Lex's and hers disguises.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegant Dreamer View Post
    I enjoyed her alias as well. I also loved Lex's and hers disguises.
    The wig sort of harked back to how Linda Lee wore a wig as a disguise in the 1984 Supergirl movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Osiris-Rex View Post
    I think Kara had her ears pierced while she was still a child on Krypton.
    Kara has some sort of communications device built into her earrings. Notice how she sometimes touches her ear when she first starts talking to someone while flying?
    I am guessing Kasnian Supergirl's earrings are also some sort of comm device. Maybe also a method Lex can use to control her. Emits a high pitched sound or something.

    Loved that Linda Lee was the Kasnian Supergirl's alias.
    I always thought that she was wearing an earpiece like the DEO agents wear.

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    Man, so much awesome in one episode. The winks to old Supergirl comics were very nicely done, of course, but I especially love how it took elements from Red Son and Superman: The Movie and crafted something that stands up in its own right. I've been a champion of this whole season as it was the first time since season one that Supergirl, the show, felt like something more than just a female Flash clone but this episode and last week's really upped the ante. Cryer is great as Lex but all credit to the writing too for coming up with a great take on the character and the wait for the series to finally get into "Red Daughter" Supergirl was well worth it, as it turns out, because Benoist totally killed it in the role and the character herself was genuinely well written that, again, called back to the basic idea of Red Son that despite external influences, these are fundamentally good people whose basic morality shines through all the conditioning in the world.

    Also, I've got to be honest, I liked the focus of this episode. My one main complaint with this show is that Kara still feels like a supporting player in her own show. I like almost all of her supporting cast ("Jimmy", aside) but however much I would hate to lose characters like Nia or Brainy, this show works best with a more contained cast. This episode had great bits for other characters but it was purely the Red Daughter and Lex show (with a wee bit of Lena thrown in) in a way that the series isn't often enough about Supergirl. This whole season has been a gigantic improvement over the last two but with just a bit more focus it would fully reach its potential.

    Either way, brilliant episode and easily one of the top 5 Supergirl episodes to date.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osiris-Rex View Post
    The wig sort of harked back to how Linda Lee wore a wig as a disguise in the 1984 Supergirl movie.
    Yeah; that's why I enjoyed it.

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    So what happens to Red Girl:

    1. Dead due to some cloning flaw
    2. Killed by Kara - no.
    3. Betrays Lex, killed by him
    4. Killed by Lena - who cries at bit
    5. Depowered somehow, mindwiped and goes on to be Linda Lee in the Midwest
    6. Becomes good and lives on Argo City with Mommy.
    7. Shunting into another alternate
    8. Sent to the future to join the Legion and have affair with Mon-el (who is divorced by now)
    9. Marries some guy who is a superhorse

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Smith View Post
    So what happens to Red Girl:

    1. Dead due to some cloning flaw
    2. Killed by Kara - no.
    3. Betrays Lex, killed by him
    4. Killed by Lena - who cries at bit
    5. Depowered somehow, mindwiped and goes on to be Linda Lee in the Midwest
    6. Becomes good and lives on Argo City with Mommy.
    7. Shunting into another alternate
    8. Sent to the future to join the Legion and have affair with Mon-el (who is divorced by now)
    9. Marries some guy who is a superhorse
    Another possibility is she merges back with or is absorbed by Supergirl. Sort of like what happened with Superman after he was split apart in the Superman III movie or with Matrix and Linda Danvers in the comic books.

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    I wonder if Ms. Tessmacher's fling with Mon-El was part of Luther's plan (an abortive part, obviously) or if she just wanted to have fun.
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