TV Supergirl [Spoilers]

[Noodle]

Yeah, it has been very strange how Lex hates Superman so much, but he largely ignores Hoechlin Superman haha.

He's barely been around since Lex came into the show aside from Crisis. Superman was on Argo when Lex came in, and now he's raising his kids with Lois. He's pretty much been a non-factor to Lex, while Supergirl is actively trying to stop him on a regular basis.

[Stars & Stripes]

He's barely been around since Lex came into the show aside from Crisis. Superman was on Argo when Lex came in, and now he's raising his kids with Lois. He's pretty much been a non-factor to Lex, while Supergirl is actively trying to stop him on a regular basis.

I suspect that the plan (if Covid-19 didn’t derail everything) is to eventually have Lex migrate over to the Superman and Lois show as a recurring foe.

[Noodle]

I suspect that the plan (if Covid-19 didn’t derail everything) is to eventually have Lex migrate over to the Superman and Lois show as a recurring foe.

As long as we get more Cryer Lex, I don't care which of the shows he's on.

[juan678]

[Anarchist]

I think we can all agree that Lex (and to a lesser extend Lena) is carrying this season. Leviathan is the most boring main villain since Non.

[Frontier]

I guess Chris wanted to be there to support his wife's first directing job .

I think we can all agree that Lex (and to a lesser extend Lena) is carrying this season. Leviathan is the most boring main villain since Non.

At least Non didn't try and carry the whole season. Now Lex is basically holding the whole weight on his shoulders.

[90'sCartoonMan]

Lex continues to be an awesome villain. It was great to see all his schemes and machinations come to fruition throughout the days Post-Crisis. Poor Eve, being manipulated like that. Gemma reminds me of Media from American Gods.

I don't want Eve, Alex, Lena or Kara to kill Lex again. Mostly because Jon Cryer is a really good Lex but they could bring him back later for a two part episode or another crossover.

Then there is Superman's show he could appear on. Put him either back in prison or some kind of limbo.

Yeah, he's way too good a character to kill off at this point, especially if Cryer wants to keep playing him.

There's something oddly Trump-esque in Lex killing someone and getting away with it scott free.

True, although if anything, it's the other way around and Trump has taken a couple pages from Lex Luthor's playbook.

Lex killed Supergirl's adoptive father. I don't think he's ever done something equivalent to Superman. Wow

That's a pretty serious blow (and the messed up thing is how, I dunno, impersonal it is because he killed Jeremiah as a means of further manipulating everyone), but there have been versions of him that have killed Superman and Lois.

Yes revealing all to Tess was a bit much, but then megalomaniacal villains gotta monologue.

I think Lex kind of had to do that because he backed himself into a corner. Eve was starting to fall for him, and he had to play along with that initially so she'd keep working for him. When she came right out and said she wanted to be with him romantically, he had to turn her down. Since that has the potential to backfire on him in a woman scorned kind of way, he had to reveal that he is basically holding Eve's mother hostage so she won't try anything. That's probably going to come back to bite him, but I can see why he did it.

[AnakinFlair]

He's barely been around since Lex came into the show aside from Crisis. Superman was on Argo when Lex came in, and now he's raising his kids with Lois. He's pretty much been a non-factor to Lex, while Supergirl is actively trying to stop him on a regular basis.

Well, the show is called Supergirl. If he survives, he can move over to Superman and Lois and be a Big Bad for them.

Yeah, he's way too good a character to kill off at this point, especially if Cryer wants to keep playing him.

While I agree, remember this IS Warner Brothers. If they even have the germ of an idea of using Lex in the movies, they'll kill him off in a heartbeat.

That's a pretty serious blow (and the messed up thing is how, I dunno, impersonal it is because he killed Jeremiah as a means of further manipulating everyone), but there have been versions of him that have killed Superman and Lois.

Hell, this Lex spent an episode killing alternate Supermen.

I think we can all agree that Lex (and to a lesser extend Lena) is carrying this season. Leviathan is the most boring main villain since Non.

Don't insult Non like that.

[Noodle]

Well, the show is called Supergirl. If he survives, he can move over to Superman and Lois and be a Big Bad for them.

I get that, and agree with that. I was just giving my thought as to why Lex wasn't trying to kill Superman on the show. Not that I wanted more Superman on the show.

It's similar to the people that complain about Batwoman because it's not Batman.

[Frontier]

I get that, and agree with that. I was just giving my thought as to why Lex wasn't trying to kill Superman on the show. Not that I wanted more Superman on the show.

It's similar to the people that complain about Batwoman because it's not Batman.

I'm not even necessarily complaining it's just weird to me that this one character is so central to another's motivation but they seem to go out of their way not to have them actually interact with each other on-screen in favor of a character who, while the lead of the show and his sister's best friend, has no real history with him.

[Jokerz79]

I'm not even necessarily complaining it's just weird to me that this one character is so central to another's motivation but they seem to go out of their way not to have them actually interact with each other on-screen in favor of a character who, while the lead of the show and his sister's best friend, has no real history with him.

I'm going to assume Lex messing with Supergirl is his version of dating someone else to try and make the real object of your affections jealous.

[Osiris-Rex]

At least Non didn't try and carry the whole season. Now Lex is basically holding the whole weight on his shoulders.

Chris Vance got the role of the main villain sort of by default because Laura Benanti left the show because she had a child and wanted to got back to New York for Broadway. I think the intention was to have Astra
as the main villain the entire first season. Non had been just sort of Astra's flunky up until that point.

I'm not even necessarily complaining it's just weird to me that this one character is so central to another's motivation but they seem to go out of their way not to have them actually interact with each other on-screen in favor of a character who, while the lead of the show and his sister's best friend, has no real history with him.

I think this is in part because Lex has shown a special interest in Lena and Supergirl has been heavily involved with Lena since season 2. Thus Lex has become fixated on Supergirl because at this point in time Supergirl
is more of a threat to Lena than Superman is. Lex probably feels he can always go back to dealing with Superman once he has dealt with Supergirl. Eliminated that threat.

[Ilan Preskovsky]

Wow, that was genuinely pretty terrific. Cryer is just too damn good as Lex. Aside for being a brilliant Luthor showcase, this episode also gave this otherwise crazy messy season some much-needed focus.

They definitely need to do some housekeeping before the next season (get rid of some of the supporting cast; keep the overall plotline more streamlined and allow for more good single-episode stories (this season has actually had a number of those, fortunately); once again, more Kara in her own show; and do whatever the hell they can to keep John Cryer around in some capacity) but it's episodes like this that proves that this show still has some aces up its sleeves.

Unlike The Flash, unfortunately. Well, aside for Ralph and Sue.

[AnakinFlair]

Wow, that was genuinely pretty terrific. Cryer is just too damn good as Lex. Aside for being a brilliant Luthor showcase, this episode also gave this otherwise crazy messy season some much-needed focus.

They definitely need to do some housekeeping before the next season (get rid of some of the supporting cast; keep the overall plotline more streamlined and allow for more good single-episode stories (this season has actually had a number of those, fortunately); once again, more Kara in her own show; and do whatever the hell they can to keep John Cryer around in some capacity) but it's episodes like this that proves that this show still has some aces up its sleeves.

I actually wonder how much Kara will actually be in the next season, due to her pregnancy. They might need to keep an expanded supporting cast just to cover her absence.

Chris Vance got the role of the main villain sort of by default because Laura Benanti left the show because she had a child and wanted to got back to New York for Broadway. I think the intention was to have Astra
as the main villain the entire first season. Non had been just sort of Astra's flunky up until that point.

Wait, is THAT why they killed her off?!

The thing that always impressed me about Joss Wheedon was that, with one notable exception, he was always able to either keep actors around, or call them back for the most minuscule cameos. Berlanti, on the other hand, seems to be the exact opposite- he keeps hiring cast members that can't wait to leave. I wish they'd hire actors that wanted to stick around.

[Noodle]

I actually wonder how much Kara will actually be in the next season, due to her pregnancy. They might need to keep an expanded supporting cast just to cover her absence.

It might be smarter to just switch Supergirl and Legends. Normally Legends starts mid-season. By starting Supergirl later it gives her more time before filming to have the kid and get adjusted.