TV Supergirl [Spoilers]

[tabo61]

I liked how there was a Kryptonian prison that was inside of the Phantom Zone

[Robotman]

No, it's Kryptonese. The official language of Krypton has always been Kryptonese. DC changed it to Kryptonian (unofficially) but the name still stuck, even in Superman: Birthright which was Superman's official origin up until the New 52. Officially that's what it's been called since the beginning.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krypto...e_and_alphabet

interesting. didnt know that. still i dont really like the way it sounds. if someone's Spanish they speak Spanish, Germans speak German, if someone's Japanese they speak Japanese. it just sounds odd to say they're Kryptonian and speak Kryptonese.

just my opinion.

[kalorama]

Checked Wiki, and he was created in 1974 and was a "friend and equal of Superman." Surprising that they used him as a villain, but it's not a big thing for me.

It's not so surprising, really. They did basically the same thing with Atom Smasher in Flash and Huntress and Bronze Tiger in Arrow.

[Elmo]

interesting. didnt know that. still i dont really like the way it sounds. if someone's Spanish they speak Spanish, Germans speak German, if someone's Japanese they speak Japanese. it just sounds odd to say they're Kryptonian and speak Kryptonese.

just my opinion.

Oh I completely agree, I'm just saying that Kryptonese isn't inaccurate.

[Tracer Bullet]

Missed it. Was it any different than the leaked pilot?

[Elmo]

For those who missed the pilot, it's free to download on iTunes.

[Ilan Preskovsky]

As I said in another thread...

I very much enjoyed it. There's plenty of room for improvement but I think Benoist is terrific and I just love the general feel of it. And the fact that I think it will work especially well for girls between the ages of, say, six and fifteen may turn some people off but I think that's very much a good thing for a Supergirl show. As we saw with the Flash, the pilot is one thing but what really matters is where they go from here - and, for the forseable future at least, I am really looking forward to finding out.

So yeah, count me in as cautiously optimistic. And, yes, I already enjoy it more than Man of Steel.

[saul_on_the_road_to_damascus]

Missed it. Was it any different than the leaked pilot?

I think they might have changed the music during the suit design/debuting her self as a hero montage. I don't remember that song playing during the leaked pilot but it has been quite a few months since I saw it.

[90'sCartoonMan]

I love Melissa Benoist! I know this is hardly her first gig but I haven't been familiar with her until now so she feels like such a fresh discovery, and "Girl Next Door" is definitely the right term for her.

I thought she was one of the best of Glee: The New Class. Interesting that Grant Gustin was also on Glee. If they ever do a Flash/Supergirl crossover, there's got to be a sing off.

There's nothing wrong with shows not being linked. It's not like Lois and Clark needed to have Wonder Woman or Batman exist or TDK trilogy needed to have Superman exist. The one time the Batman movies acknowledged that there was a Superman it didn't go over very well.

That was just a throw away gag (as was the Batman reference on Lois and Clark). I feel like the closest we've come (not counting Man of Steel/Dawn of Justice) to a serious implication that both co-exist was in Superman Returns.

Kara's friend assuming she was a lesbian was too easy and obvious a joke and should have just been avoided

Which happened in both a Superman and a Flash DTV. Weird how it's overused and played out already.

I think part of the idea behind Superman giving Kara to the Danvers', beyond taking care of her, giving her a home and family environment that he thought she needed, was that since they helped him with his powers they could help Kara train to use her abilities.

She's probably just rusty with them or not as skilled as Clark is because she apparently hadn't used them in a really long time aside from menial tasks like using her Super-Hearing to get ready for Cat showing up in the office.

The explanation is sound, but if Kara is going to be a full-fledged superhero, that's another level of training that only Superman can give her. And I'm kind of tired of seeing Superman constantly abandoning people with powers like his. I know in the Silver Age comics, he kind of just dumped her off at an orphanage and only let Supergirl out as a "secret weapon", which is kind of messed up, but what's with this new trend of ditching fellow Kryptonians on all these DC TV shows? He avoided Superboy like the plague on Young Justice and even on Krypto the Superdog, he just leaves Krypto to some random family in Metropolis.

It's Ra's Al Ghul all over again .

Or "Lex Luthor" or "Lana Lang" or "The Planet Winath" or "Mr. Mxyzptlk" or...

[Triniking1234]

I HATE that pronunciation of Kara. I much prefer how Kara and her family pronounce it. That's how they pronounced it in the original movie.

Cat is the only one who mis-pronounces it. It's part of her bitchy-ness.

[Sandy Hausler]

It's not so surprising, really. They did basically the same thing with Atom Smasher in Flash and Huntress and Bronze Tiger in Arrow.

Bronze Tiger killed Batwoman. He will always be a villain to me.

Sandy Hausler

[manofsteel1979]

I found the casting of James Olsen to be brilliant, myself. He was the opposite of everything we might expect, from race to physical build to dress to personality. For most characters this wouldn't work, but in this case I loved it. He seemed much more the sort of person Superman would actually become good friends with, and he seems much more like a character that can be built upon in an interesting way. You cast "Jimmy" and you are kind of stuck with a one trick pony. They avoided that pitfall in a very successful way, I think.

I'm not one to be in favor of huge shifts from established characters generally, but this change was for the best.

We didn't get a chance to see any levels to Cat, but I expect they'll come. Flockhart doesn't strike me as likely to take a two-dimensional role.

I dug this version of Jimmy too.

The way I imagine this is, seeing how this Superman has been around for at least a decade in the public eye, this Jimmy may have once been the scrawny bumbling geeky kid we all know,but through his friendship and many adventures he likely had with Superman, he matured into a guy who has seen and experienced a lot of stuff, perhaps even inspired him to go to the gym to bulk up. It's believable that this Jimmy, who has got his sh!t together would be trusted by Superman to act as Kara's "guardian" or mentor of sorts. I can't imagine someone like the Jack Larsen or Marc McClure or Sam Huntington Jimmy (i.e., the kind of Jimmy the detractors seem to expect) being someone Superman would trust to do this for him.

We have to approach this as world in the midst of Superman year 11 or 12. Superman has been around for a long time and has had a lot of unseen adventures. Lois, Jimmy, Perry and Cat have all changed and evolved from who we think of as their traditional set ups. For all we know, This Superman and Lois are already married with a kid,Perry may have retired or passed on, and as we see, Cat is now running her own media empire (perhaps this version had a blog like the current comics version once upon a time and we are kind of seeing where that leads her) and JAMES is no longer Superman's goofy kid photographer side kick,but his own man.

I'm 35 nearly 36 now. I'm definitely not the same man I was at 25, and definitely not the same person I was at 15. People change as they grow up. A grown up, confident James Olsen is almost an untried entirely new concept in live action, and one I welcome in this context.

[kalorama]

Bronze Tiger killed Batwoman. He will always be a villain to me.

But he was brainwashed and under the League of Assassin's control when he did it. If he's a villain, then by that standard so is Thea on Arrow.

[richalex]

Cat is the only one who mis-pronounces it. It's part of her bitchy-ness.

Oh yeah, I know. She was doing it on purpose.

I just hated they pronounced it "CARE-UH" on Smallville and many of the DTV. Car-Uh sounds more....alien to me. LOL I dunno. It's how it was pronounced in the original movie. lol.

[Frontier]

Cat seemed to really take issue with Kara bringing up the Daily Planet, so I wonder if there's a lot of bad blood between her and the Planet and if she worked there in the past...I also wonder how she'd react if someone brought up Lois Lane ?