Originally Posted by
AndyFish
Guys I've been around for a long time, and I make a good living doing comic book art for a variety of companies all over the world. I've been a full time comic book artist and graphic novelist for 15 years.
I thought I could throw my (admittedly non requested) 2c here regarding page rates;
For those of you looking for artists, I see people on here posting they will deliver work for $25-$40 per page-- I'm tempted to hire them myself to ghost some of my work while I charge a "real" rate for them, but as I said I've been around and someone who is offering to work at that rate is not going to deliver the pages. Why? BECAUSE THEY NEED A JOB TO PAY THE BILLS WHILE THEY DO THIS AS A HOBBY.
Because at $40 per page for FULL art they are doing this as a hobby and have some other means to pay the bills. Think it through and do the math-- if a page of art takes FIVE HOURS (and that's extremely fast) then that person is working for $8 an hour. Below minimum wage. If they take 8 hours on a page (and that's more the norm) they are making $5 an hour. Unless this artist is living at home chained to a desk you're going to be buying excuses for missed deadlines because that 8 hours of work has to come during their off hours from whatever job it is they have that actually pays to keep the lights on.
So all you're buying at those rates is headaches and excuses.
For the artists posting these rates-- you do nothing but set yourself up for failure. I get it, you're trying to get work for your portfolio so that you can get hired by the "big" companies. The trouble is posting these bargain rates there is no way you can possibly get 22 pages done in a month and that will mean whatever book you're working on at this rate will have rushed pages, or pages done when you're tired, or the work will be sloppy and in all of those cases it's going to earn you a reputation as an artist who can't deliver pro level work and the work that comes out will be subpar.
Instead, I'd suggest you work on something of your own, post it online and make it the best you can. Hone your skills and the work will come, but if you're seen by a publisher as a bargain basement artist they won't take you seriously.
So what do you do if you're a writer who can't afford an artist?
1. You could take some drawing lessons and try and draw it yourself. There are tons of self taught artists out here working, Jim Aparo, Frank Miller, etc-- they all taught themselves to draw. It's not as hard as it looks but it does take effort.
2. Pay real rates ($100+) for pages and do only 4-5 pages of your project and pitch it to a company, if the work looks good, and sadly for writers it's easier to sell a project if it's got good art then if it has bad art and amazing writing, you'll get a contract and your book will get a publisher. There are SO many good publishers out there right now the opportunities have never been higher. If your work gets passed on, keep pushing, remember SUPERMAN was rejected by a dozen publishers before National (now DC) bought it. <<and take a lesson there, Siegel and Shuster were so anxious to get it published they sold the rights for $130 and a guarantee of a paycheck which lasted under ten years before they got fired.
3. Go the Kickstarter route. I was involved in a Kickstarter project for a graphic novel that asked for $40K and we ended up raising close to $55k because the money kept coming in even after the campaign ended. It was hard work and we pushed it for the month it was live but we had the money to publish a book which has now been optioned by a film company.
Anyway, my thoughts. I hate to see either writers or artists set themselves up for failure.