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    Default MCU Daredevil vs. Winter Soldier

    who is the superior fighter. No weapons. pure h2h

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    In the comics that would be a no-brainer win for Matt, but here, Bucky would win.
    Sure, DD is arguably more SKILLED, but Bucky is much tougher and much stronger.
    He takes this.

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    Yup, the one with a version of the Super Soldier Serum running in his veins and a robot arm strong enough to overpower Cap should take this (even if Matt will have the advantage of magic meditation to recover from that beating).

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrenchGemini View Post
    Yup, the one with a version of the Super Soldier Serum running in his veins and a robot arm strong enough to overpower Cap should take this (even if Matt will have the advantage of magic meditation to recover from that beating).
    Does Bucky have the SS in his system? I just thought he had the robot arm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holacik View Post
    Does Bucky have the SS in his system? I just thought he had the robot arm.
    it's hinted that zola did something to bucky after his fall, likely a version of the SS serum. but yeah, it wasn't just the arm that made him a beast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holacik View Post
    Does Bucky have the SS in his system? I just thought he had the robot arm.
    Pretty sure it's stated in the movie that Bucky survived his fall due to experiments done to him during his pre-Howling Commandos days. ISTR those experiments included a version of the SSS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FrenchGemini View Post
    Pretty sure it's stated in the movie that Bucky survived his fall due to experiments done to him during his pre-Howling Commandos days. ISTR those experiments included a version of the SSS.
    why are we talking about their strength and toughness...
    isn't this just who has the most skill?

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuickDevilRed View Post
    why are we talking about their strength and toughness...
    isn't this just who has the most skill?
    in terms of skill, bucky still had an edge over matt, due to being active for about half a century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by master of read View Post
    in terms of skill, bucky still had an edge over matt, due to being active for about half a century.
    Not quite. Unless the guy shows the skill to match Matt featwise, he kinda doesn't.

    Best we got was a brawl with Cap, which he was winning thanks to being stronger with the Robo-arm. Murdock definitely has him in skill, unless I'm forgetting some feats for Buck.
    Yeah, but if you... man, we're getting into weird analogy territory, like if you disintegrated Superman's arms he wouldn't be able to go "fool! Little did you know that my arms and I are one and can be remade from me!" and will his arms back into being from pure nothingness. - Pendaran

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    Cap is the most dangerous man alive, as it should be. Bucky put up an okay fight, but Cap was just better. But that's more than enough. Bucky tears DD and Nobu in half at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kid-who-cried-wolf View Post
    Cap is the most dangerous man alive, as it should be. Bucky put up an okay fight, but Cap was just better. But that's more than enough. Bucky tears DD and Nobu in half at the same time.
    Please. Tony Stark is a threat to more people (including himself) on a daily basis than Cap could ever be, even without his armor. Steve can try and play with the big kids when he decides that lightly electrocuting Bruce Banner while they were both on a boat/airship is a fun experiment.

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    btw,this is winter soldier from the movie i am speaking of.

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    Matt is more skilled and a bit more agile. But Bucky takes hits from Cap just fine, and has a strength advantage.

    WS takes it 9/10

    with the 1 win being due to the batons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluekey View Post
    Matt is more skilled and a bit more agile. But Bucky takes hits from Cap just fine, and has a strength advantage.

    WS takes it 9/10

    with the 1 win being due to the batons.
    So, Bucky 10/10 since OP said "no weapons, pure H2H"?

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