What DID Cyclops do? Theories and Spculation

[VilotorioFabiano]

No, he's not. Marvel's taking arguably the most important X-man of all time and probably the most popular now that Logan is dead and having his friends say he's an evil murderer and responsible for all of mutantkind's problems when he has been anything but for 50+ years and the previous run ended with him holding a peace rally. It's their JOB to give a reason, and give it right away.

Specially considering that the only logical conclusion we can reach from the information given so far is that Cyclops protested and/or reacted poorly to a poison gas sterilizing and murdering his people; and the implication of this is that Marvel thinks that if a minority has been forcibly sterilized and murdered so another group of people can grow and thrive, the minority should just stay quiet and don't do anything about it.

You guys sure do get off on your gloom and doom porn no? It's getting annoying with everyone acting like Marvel hates Cyclops and Cyclops only. Yet he's one of the characters that has received the most character development in the Marvel universe recently. Ten years ago Cyclops was nowhere near this level of relevance, so I'm definitely not on the boat that thinks Marvel has it out for Cyclops.

In many works of literature the MOST popular character is the most tortured one as well. Just because they're having Cyclops go through the ringer doesn't mean they have it out for him. Oh well, when this story is over and Cyclops is back and it's revealed his former teammates were tricked into believing a lie, then hopefully you guys let up on the martyrdom. Telling and not showing is something writers use to trick readers and you guys are all falling for it. However, if Marvel does leave him dead and a villain, then I'm done. But what they've shown so far is that they're still heavily invested in Cyclops.

[Nyadnar17]

You guys sure do get off on your gloom and doom porn no? It's getting annoying with everyone acting like Marvel hates Cyclops and Cyclops only. Yet he's one of the characters that has received the most character development in the Marvel universe recently. Ten years ago Cyclops was nowhere near this level of relevance, so I'm definitely not on the boat that thinks Marvel has it out for Cyclops.

In many works of literature the MOST popular character is the most tortured one as well. Just because they're having Cyclops go through the ringer doesn't mean they have it out for him. Oh well, when this story is over and Cyclops is back and it's revealed his former teammates were tricked into believing a lie, then hopefully you guys let up on the martyrdom. Telling and not showing is something writers use to trick readers and you guys are all falling for it. However, if Marvel does leave him dead and a villain, then I'm done. But what they've shown so far is that they're still heavily invested in Cyclops.

I am not saying you are wrong. I am just saying that it has been a loooooooooooooong time since I had a book with Cyclops in it(its really hard for me to count the mess that was Uncanny X-men) and the blue balls are real.

[dragonmp93]

QFT, it's way worse than Namor's death.
If Lemire or any editors were actually interested in writing a semi decent story they'd give some decent flashbacks and factual evidence to back up random claims of Scott being absolute evil. So far they've only made some characters say that Cyclops is the worst mutant yadah yadah yadah, and they expect us to somehow accept what they throw at us when it contradicts everything that has happened for the last 10 years (cept for the arrhate of certain characters), not a set up or explanation of any kind.
So cyclops fans just have to accept that a writer that doesn't want write that character drags his good name through the mud, and haters can hate him like good sheep because one or two characters told them too.
Honestly they've made identity crisis and zero hour parallax look good, and that's quite and achievement. If Lemire didn't wanted to write cyclops he'd just left him out of his book, how difficult was that, same to the rest of the writers. If their intent was to write a good story that's a pretty shitty start and no good story starts like that, so my bet is they're making it along the way. What I hope for is that Hickman writes that Cyclops didn't wanted to go to the new MU post SW and retcon in one sweep all the crap they're writing about him

Like i have been saying, im pretty sure that this wasnt Lemire's idea.

[Fokken]

I blame all of this mystery crap on Secret Wars.
I really really do.
I wouldn't be all that surprised to find that all of the post SW writers were forced to time skip (or at least time skip more than initially planned) because of SW being delayed beyond comprehension and with their respective books clearly being published before hand, they had to edit accordingly so as not to blow the BS conclusion (like ANYONE cares about THAT anymore) and now people are just biding their time until they can reveal their ACTUAL plans.

Wanna blame someone? Blame Secret Wars.
<hands out torches and pitch forks>

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? <sigh>

[AJpyro]

I blame all of this mystery crap on Secret Wars.
I really really do.
I wouldn't be all that surprised to find that all of the post SW writers were forced to time skip (or at least time skip more than initially planned) because of SW being delayed beyond comprehension and with their respective books clearly being published before hand, they had to edit accordingly so as not to blow the BS conclusion (like ANYONE cares about THAT anymore) and now people are just biding their time until they can reveal their ACTUAL plans.

Wanna blame someone? Blame Secret Wars.
<hands out torches and pitch forks>

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? <sigh>

Your not alone in blaming SW and Marvel's annoying love of events. And the annoying line that Marvel said that they "planned this for some years now"

Apparently other writers (Cough*BMB*Cough) were either not told of this or dragged their feet to the goal post. And post SW I get that they want some mystery and a time-skip is a good way for it but not everyone works well with it.

This makes me miss 52.

[Tazpocalapse]

I blame all of this mystery crap on Secret Wars.
I really really do.
I wouldn't be all that surprised to find that all of the post SW writers were forced to time skip (or at least time skip more than initially planned) because of SW being delayed beyond comprehension and with their respective books clearly being published before hand, they had to edit accordingly so as not to blow the BS conclusion (like ANYONE cares about THAT anymore) and now people are just biding their time until they can reveal their ACTUAL plans.

Wanna blame someone? Blame Secret Wars.
<hands out torches and pitch forks>

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? <sigh>

I don't blame SW delays. I blame that the X-office for some reason thought it would be a great idea to dangle a carrot in front of everyone and sell this mystery crap. Perhaps it would have worked better if we knew what Cyke was up to after his march on Washington .But NOOOO i guess even that is TMI and will ruin the story. Every significant thing of relevancy happened off panel and has only been vaguely explained. Why did the X-men break up to the point that they all were gathering themselves together in EXM #1? Did the mist start killing mutants before or after Cyke attacked?All the important things happened off panel and what do we get in the books? Just some nonsense about mists is killing mutants and Cyke is a dead vilian.

Speaking of the mists talk about forced plots.The fact that Hopeless isn't really going to explore that plot proves just how usefull it is at the moment.LOL.I don't blame him i would ignore that garbage also, but the Cyclops mystery crap can not be avoided by him.

Thank goodness they announced the upcoming poc cross-over now i have something to look forward to. After the first 3 issues of EXM and 1 issue of ANX i am already fatigued from the whole OMG CYKE is the new Red Skull dialog. It has not moved the story forward in anyway in EXM and just is taking up page space at this point.

[somacula]

I don't blame SW delays. I blame that the X-office for some reason thought it would be a great idea to dangle a carrot in front of everyone and sell this mystery crap. Perhaps it would have worked better if we knew what Cyke was up to after his march on Washington .But NOOOO i guess even that is TMI and will ruin the story. Every significant thing of relevancy happened off panel and has only been vaguely explained. Why did the X-men break up to the point that they all were gathering themselves together in EXM #1? Did the mist start killing mutants before or after Cyke attacked?All the important things happened off panel and what do we get in the books? Just some nonsense about mists is killing mutants and Cyke is a dead vilian.

Speaking of the mists talk about forced plots.The fact that Hopeless isn't really going to explore that plot proves just how usefull it is at the moment.LOL.I don't blame him i would ignore that garbage also, but the Cyclops mystery crap can not be avoided by him.

Thank goodness they announced the upcoming poc cross-over now i have something to look forward to. After the first 3 issues of EXM and 1 issue of ANX i am already fatigued from the whole OMG CYKE is the new Red Skull dialog. It has not moved the story forward in anyway in EXM and just is taking up page space at this point.

At least red skull is a decent villain, check his SW solo. Red skull actually acts and says amazing monologues at the same time, has amazing victories and really gives everyone a reason to hate him. If they wanted to turn Cyke into a villain of that caliber I can inform them that they're failing horribly

[nx01a]

Seems to me that editorial's just continuing to do what's been done for years now: try to make Cyclops look bad but the only ones who look bad are editorial. Posters [myself included] are tired already of this 'mystery'... and the new era only started what? Little over a month ago thanks to double shipping? Imagine how much more annoying this would be if EXM and ANXM had been shipping monthly.

[somacula]

Seems to me that editorial's just continuing to do what's been done for years now: try to make Cyclops look bad but the only ones who look bad are editorial. Posters [myself included] are tired already of this 'mystery'... and the new era only started what? Little over a month ago thanks to double shipping? Imagine how much more annoying this would be if EXM and ANXM had been shipping monthly.

I got a few hypothesis about the thought process that marvel follows to publish this stuff of... Questionable quality. Gonna post them later

[Tazpocalapse]

At least red skull is a decent villain, check his SW solo. Red skull actually acts and says amazing monologues at the same time, has amazing victories and really gives everyone a reason to hate him. If they wanted to turn Cyke into a villain of that caliber I can inform them that they're failing horribly

I read it. I liked the story. Speaking of the Red Skull he is still walking around with Prof. X brain for all we know.Something else that has not been brought up and resolved. Tyke saying Cyke lost his mind makes me think that the 4 chan rumor might have some merit. Or it could be Skull i also think that the Prof X talking to Storm could be Skull.

[dragonmp93]

At least red skull is a decent villain, check his SW solo. Red skull actually acts and says amazing monologues at the same time, has amazing victories and really gives everyone a reason to hate him. If they wanted to turn Cyke into a villain of that caliber I can inform them that they're failing horribly

That's obviously is not point, the point of him becoming "evil" is to get rid of him.

I read it. I liked the story. Speaking of the Red Skull he is still walking around with Prof. X brain for all we know.Something else that has not been brought up and resolved. Tyke saying Cyke lost his mind makes me think that the 4 chan rumor might have some merit. Or it could be Skull i also think that the Prof X talking to Storm could be Skull.

Well, after AXIS, i think that Doctor Doom kept him strapped to a chair in his lair.

[Tazpocalapse]

It's also possibly that he did not die during SW and during or after SW he did something while under the thrall of the Phoenix.

[JustAnotherFan]

I have my doubts about Marvel ever actually truly revealing what went down for the X-Men during the 8 months after the SW. I mean, why would they reveal that if they never bothered to reveal what happened to X-Men during the 8 months before the SW. I get the feeling that all x-fans will ever get is some vague "explanation" that doesn't really answer anything.

[Bl00dwerK]

Scott finally went off the deep end?

[FluffyCyclopsRLZ]

I have my doubts about Marvel ever actually truly revealing what went down for the X-Men during the 8 months after the SW. I mean, why would they reveal that if they never bothered to reveal what happened to X-Men during the 8 months before the SW. I get the feeling that all x-fans will ever get is some vague "explanation" that doesn't really answer anything.

We still don't know what Nation-X was even about or where the hell EvilClops got his Phoenix Egg, lol.