View Poll Results: How do you feel?

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  • LOVE IT! This reveal makes me so happy.

    36 13.58%
  • Very pleased. Mutant, gay and proud.

    33 12.45%
  • Pleasantly surprised how much I enjoyed this revelation.

    17 6.42%
  • Just relieved Bendis didn’t have 05 Bobby and adult Bobby different sexualities

    11 4.15%
  • Indifferent; I genuinely don’t care if he’s gay or str8

    86 32.45%
  • I don’t know how I feel?

    6 2.26%
  • Disappointed. 05 Bobby as gay fine, but not adult Bobby

    26 9.81%
  • Very annoyed. Neither Bobby should be gay.

    19 7.17%
  • HATE IT! This retcon makes me so upset.

    31 11.70%
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    CBR's Good Fairy Kieran_Frost's Avatar
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    Question ULTIMATE TRUTH! How do CBR posters feel about Iceman being gay?

    A simple poll; now we've (finally ) had this confirmed in Uncanny X-men #600. What is the overall consensus of the revelation byt CBR posters? This is not necessary about the way it was told (i.e. execution, Bendis' writing style); but more the concept or the over-reacting result of BOTH our Bobby's being revealed as gay. Regardless how it was done, it's done now. So how do you feel about this (since it will, in all likelihood, never change)? This was a game changer for Iceman, and you can never go back home again.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Kieran_Frost View Post
    This was a game changer for Iceman, and you can never go back home again.
    While I just said this elsewhere, this character has been changing for his entire history. The idea that there ever was a "home" that you can "go back to" is sort of goofy.

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    Honestly indifferent. Don't care one bit about his sexuality.
    Reading that conversation between Teen Jean and Bobby again made me laugh though. It's as direct as a punch to the face.
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    I have rarely cared about Bobby in the past and haven't changed my apathy towards him now.

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    Kinda indifferent but if it was written by someone besides Bendis...I probably still wouldn't care but at least it would've been better written.
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    Indifferent. I mean why would anybody let their feelings get attached to what someone does in their life that has nothing to do with them or anyone else?

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    It is quite difficult to separate the revelation from the execution. I still can't help but think that, say, Peter David could've had Bobby come out as gay and make you believe it. Mr Bendis just doesn't have the writer-fu to pull it off. Comic books as a medium are all about the execution. I didn't buy this reveal and I don't dig the retcon of adult Iceman's sexual preference, but that's nobody's fault but the creative team who did it.

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    Are those panels the extent to which Bendis provided to reveal that Bobby is/was a homosexual? It is all I have to go on, without having the actual comic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bloodofthegods View Post
    Are those panels the extent to which Bendis provided to reveal that Bobby is/was a homosexual? It is all I have to go on, without having the actual comic.
    There were a couple more where Bobby said something like "Are you sure? Maybe I'm bi..." and Jean said "No, you're totally gay!". Seriously.

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    Indiferent, I do not mind if Bobby is gay or straight

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    Quote Originally Posted by genki_desu View Post
    It is quite difficult to separate the revelation from the execution. I still can't help but think that, say, Peter David could've had Bobby come out as gay and make you believe it. Mr Bendis just doesn't have the writer-fu to pull it off. Comic books as a medium are all about the execution. I didn't buy this reveal and I don't dig the retcon of adult Iceman's sexual preference, but that's nobody's fault but the creative team who did it.
    Exactly this. Because of poor execution it's look much more like cheap gimmick rather than something noteworthy.

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    I'm good with Adult Bobby being gay, but I don't feel his scene was well written. This scene to me did not feel like a man who was looking back on his past relationships and feelings now realizing that he is gay and was always gay. It read to me like a man who hid he was gay because he could deal, used relationships with women as beards and as attempts to fix himself. I've always liked Bobby as a character and I wanted more for him than how this played out. I hoped he was someone who struggled with trying to understand who he was, not someone who knew and was deceptive because he "didn't want to be gay and a mutant".

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    Well it is pretty difficult to be objective about a fictional character without considering the writer as they are literally the driving force of the character. Bobby is not a real human being we can ask about his life experiences with his sexuality. Mr Bendis writing is literally the thing to judge in how we this plays out. We can't judge Jean for her involvement as she is fictional as well. So in how one might feel about whether Bobby is heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual is directly on Mr Bendis' shoulders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kieran_Frost View Post
    A simple poll; now we've (finally ) had this confirmed in Uncanny X-men #600. What is the overall consensus of the revelation byt CBR posters? This is not necessary about the way it was told (i.e. execution, Bendis' writing style); but more the concept or the over-reacting result of BOTH our Bobby's being revealed as gay. Regardless how it was done, it's done now. So how do you feel about this (since it will, in all likelihood, never change)? This was a game changer for Iceman, and you can never go back home again.



    Could there be an option for absolutely fine with the character being gay (and in his adult version, closeted), but wondering if there's not a problem of bisexual erasure here? After all, this reveal can be interpreted in one of two ways:

    1) Bobby has always been completely homosexual and closeted, and therefore there was not an ounce of real sexual attraction present in any of his relationships with women, past stories notwithstanding and therefore retconned.

    2) Bobby has actually experienced sexual attraction to women, and therefore definitionally speaking would be bisexual rather than gay, but neither version of the character speaks to this and the existence of bisexuality is tacitly ignored in the story... i.e., bisexual erasure.

    Or is there a third option here that I am not seeing?

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