There came a time when the Old Gods died! The Brave died with the Cunning! The Noble perished locked in battle with unleashed Evil! It was the last day for them! An ancient era was passing in fiery holocaust!
The same people, that get apoplectic over some statues being pulled down, can't begin to understand why indigenous people are angry over the expropriation of their sacred land for commercial interests. The first nation in my region of the world has lived here for over 5,000 years (I did a paper on them for an archaeology course)--yet when some conservatives want to dig up ancient burial land for a parking lot, the natives are labelled as irrational in opposing them.
There came a time when the Old Gods died! The Brave died with the Cunning! The Noble perished locked in battle with unleashed Evil! It was the last day for them! An ancient era was passing in fiery holocaust!
There came a time when the Old Gods died! The Brave died with the Cunning! The Noble perished locked in battle with unleashed Evil! It was the last day for them! An ancient era was passing in fiery holocaust!
Got it.
Man, there is a lot of the history that just falls by the wayside in the telling.
Which doesn't really even get into De La Cosa's later voyages exploring parts of the new world where how Europeans colonized them is an issue.It is impossible to overestimate the link between Basque shipbuilding and sailing in the conquest of the Americas. These activities positioned the Basques for a dominating role in the discovery and development of New World colonies. It begins with the journey of Christopher Columbus in 1492, with the Santa Maria, Niña, and Pinta. The Santa Maria was built in a Basque shipyard and owned by Juan de la Cosa, a Basque. In addition, nine Basque sailors were aboard the Santa Maria, six sailed on the Niña, and two were part of the crew on the Pinta.
There's also the possibility that there was a Basque involvement in Newfoundland.
Just a lot of "Why Would Folks Leave Them Out Of Laying Blame Almost Entirely?..." when the Basque were a pretty central element of it taking place.
Which sets aside a lot of the really "This Should Be More Common Historical Knowledge..." as far as what came after Columbus and the theory that Columbus could actually have been Basque himself(though that latter part isn't settled as far as I know...)
There's a good bit of background in this piece -
https://euskalkazeta.com/basques-in-...-1492-to-1592/
Basques in the Americas 1492 to 1592
Oh, I see what you are referring to. My comment about Italian Americans did not have to do with the real history of Columbus, but rather his embrace by the Italian Americans as a symbol of their place in America. Which was mainly based on a false narrative. And also strange that yes, Columbus was Italian from Genoa, but his voyage had nothing to do with Italy, he sailed for Spain.
But as you laid out here with additional info about the Basques and Columbus, the statues for him have little to do with history and taking them down will not remove history, in fact, it might lead to a better understanding of the facts.
There came a time when the Old Gods died! The Brave died with the Cunning! The Noble perished locked in battle with unleashed Evil! It was the last day for them! An ancient era was passing in fiery holocaust!
...How this one, since I think I may be bending the rules a bit:
Aquaman is the best “King Arthur” live action movie for anyone who wants human characterization mixed with their mythological fun.
Even Excalibur, as great as it is, s more dealing with archetypes than people.
Like action, adventure, rogues, and outlaws? Like anti-heroes, femme fatales, mysteries and thrillers?
I wrote a book with them. Outlaw’s Shadow: A Sherwood Noir. Robin Hood’s evil counterpart, Guy of Gisbourne, is the main character. Feel free to give it a look: https://read.amazon.com/kp/embed?asi...E2PKBNJFH76GQP
John Boorman's EXCALIBUR? When that movie came out--and I saw it--it was widely panned by the critics. My thought was--oh it's not that bad. It was an okay sort of movie--but not really faithful to Arthurian legend. And I can see why many turned on it for its ridiculous excesses. I thought it was consigned to the junkheap of history. Yet I see fans these days lauding the movie. I wonder how did it get rehabilitated in pop culture?
Most other King Arthur films are worse - and Excalibur does have an excellent Merlin, perhaps one of the best. It also has quite the cast outside of him, similar to David Lynch's Dune. The plot may be thin, but the actors are good enough to make something watchable out of it because so many of them are top notch performers. Helen Mirren, Liam Neeson, and Patrick Stewart are all in Excalibur.
The Clive Owen King Arthur is good from a historical fiction perspective, and I think Stellan Skarsgard is underrated as the villain. Personally I enjoy how he never raises his voice (with one exception) for the entirety of the film.
But outside of those two we typically have musicals, low budget TV shows, really dated stuff, or schlock that doesn't capture either the story or the feel of the legends.
Last edited by Gray Lensman; 10-19-2020 at 08:28 AM.
Dark does not mean deep.
Yeah also Columbus commuted crimes against humanity, did jail time. Became a governor of a Caribbean. Island. Did such a bad job the island revolted and he tried to escape. His son was there too and a hurricane showed up. No survivors on that boat as if God punishes him directly.