There came a time when the Old Gods died! The Brave died with the Cunning! The Noble perished locked in battle with unleashed Evil! It was the last day for them! An ancient era was passing in fiery holocaust!
There came a time when the Old Gods died! The Brave died with the Cunning! The Noble perished locked in battle with unleashed Evil! It was the last day for them! An ancient era was passing in fiery holocaust!
Well, the person who just used the cloven bundy quote to say why more immigration is great. I know that bundy is a right wing looney, but the person using that to bolster their pro-immigration posts didn’t sound like a right winger.
Also my former boss from like two jobs ago, was very proud liberal and hired a lot of seasonal workers for his business. He went off on a tirade one day about how racist the republicans were because they republicans in the senate had blocked some bill Obama was trying to pass, I don’t remember the exact one. And because of that, it was going to make it harder for him to cheaper migrant labor. He had come up with a whole plan to cut his labor costs by hiring migrant labor for seasonal work and a lot of his full maintaince/construction positions. (Because he also always acted like trades were unskilled labor.) Also anyone who says we need more migrant labor to do jobs Americans just won’t do, because if those jobs paid anything close to a ‘living wage’ there be heck of a lot more Americans willing to do them.
Whoever quoted Bundy is NOT a liberal.
I have no doubt you can scour the landscape and find someone like your boss who leaned liberal in some things and still was an ass about immigration. But your original post sounded like there are many pro-labor liberals who spout that. In fact what you posted at the end is what 99.9% of liberals say about cheap immigration labor.
For a decade it is conservatives and the Republicans who have stopped both immigration reform and advances to a living wage.
You specifically said "The side that". One or two people do not make "the side" This is a strawman. The side that advocates for labor does not want cheap immigration labor.
There came a time when the Old Gods died! The Brave died with the Cunning! The Noble perished locked in battle with unleashed Evil! It was the last day for them! An ancient era was passing in fiery holocaust!
You'd have to pay most Americans a hell of a lot more than a living wage to be out in the sun and pick fruit all day, in fact I would wager that the vast majority of the country would refuse to do the kind of work that immigrants do at any wage. In fact, the only reason ANYONE is willing to do that is because of this implicit promise that after a lifetime of toiling away without complaint, your children will be able to integrate into mainstream America and can leave all the hard physical labor to future waves of immigrants. This has always been the essence of the American Dream, and the inherently Ponzi-like nature of it sort of makes solving the immigration issue virtually intractable.
Last edited by PwrdOn; 03-25-2021 at 04:34 PM.
I'd imagine the use of immigrants as cheap labor was promoted back in the day by those on the left to appeal to the pocket books of some on the right, as a way to get their foot in the door. The preferred plan would be an easier legal path to citizenship with full rights and at least the minimum wage. And it's worked so well that it's become one of those unspoken divides between the average Republican voter and those in control of the Party.
There came a time when the Old Gods died! The Brave died with the Cunning! The Noble perished locked in battle with unleashed Evil! It was the last day for them! An ancient era was passing in fiery holocaust!
Detective Elliot Stabler is actually JUDAH ZACHERY!
I've really begun to hate villains who obsess over heroes too much. There's a reason why writers have had their villains say that revenge is a waste of time. The villain is so focused on ruining the heroes' lives that they come off more pathetic than threatening.