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    Subway sandwiches are better than Jimmy Johns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ed2962 View Post
    Subway sandwiches are better than Jimmy Johns.
    Hardly controversial, at least not in my book. I'm not a fan of Jimmy John's either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ed2962 View Post
    Subway sandwiches are better than Jimmy Johns.
    Someone in Chicago should have better deli options.

    Quote Originally Posted by WestPhillyPunisher View Post
    Hardly controversial, at least not in my book. I'm not a fan of Jimmy John's either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WestPhillyPunisher View Post
    Hardly controversial, at least not in my book. I'm not a fan of Jimmy John's either.
    I won't eat at Jimmy John's ever since I have heard of the non-compete cause they have for pretty much every employee - because trapped employees seem to be what they want. Of course, I have to travel about 30ish miles to get to one, and the same city has a Kneader's, so I wasn't likely to go anyways.

    I was unimpressed with Firehouse Subs too when I went the one time.
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    Yellow mustard is just as legit as brown mustard. It all depends on the protein you're spreading it over.

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    Probably not a controversial opinion these days, but foodies are the absolute worst. Food snobbery was tolerable when it was just confined to fancy stuff, but now it has apparently spread to basically everything. At least the people who go around collecting Michelin stars are honest about their motives, but anyone who tries to tell me what kind of burger or pizza I am or am not allowed to eat can go fuck right off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrNewGod View Post
    Yellow mustard is just as legit as brown mustard. It all depends on the protein you're spreading it over.
    Here in England, yellow mustard is probably "English Mustard" - proper blow your head off hard stuff!

    The brown is more likely the French stuff which is really mild.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PwrdOn View Post
    Probably not a controversial opinion these days, but foodies are the absolute worst. Food snobbery was tolerable when it was just confined to fancy stuff, but now it has apparently spread to basically everything. At least the people who go around collecting Michelin stars are honest about their motives, but anyone who tries to tell me what kind of burger or pizza I am or am not allowed to eat can go fuck right off.
    There are places I'd recommend to people, but I don't tell people what not to eat unless it's incredibly unhealthy (diabetics shouldn't be eating super sized sundaes) or.....pineapple on pizza. I used to work for a company whose head manager was in love with the things, and he pulled rank anytime pizza was ordered and we always had too much of the vile stuff. If you didn't get there early, you would be calling for delivery a second time, and no matter how many times we had several untouched pizzas (all with pineapple) left over, he steadfastly refused to accept that it was because very few people like them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dancj View Post
    Here in England, yellow mustard is probably "English Mustard" - proper blow your head off hard stuff!

    The brown is more likely the French stuff which is really mild.
    In the US, yellow mustard is the industrial mild stuff. It's brown mustard that has a bit of a kick. None of that has the "blow your head off" qualities you describe that make me yearn to revisit your island nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dancj View Post
    The Democrats are centrist. What you need is a left wing party.
    LMAO

    You've been drinking the kool aid if you think the dems are centrist.

    Here is a video of Bill Clinton when he was president talking about the dangers of illegal immigration. Its no different than the things Trump is saying today. Clinton is also the one who first banned gays in the military and signed the defense of marriage act which prohibited gays from marrying. What has changed is the the democrats have sprinted to the extreme left and pulled the right with them to the point that what used to be liberal is now mainstream conservative while the left has gone lunatic fringe. I can also give you links to Hilary Clinton calling black teen males "super predators" and her saying as recently as 2013 that gays shouldn't be allowed to marry.

    I've never voted republican in my life and my views haven't really changed much in the last 25 years but because of how far the left the dems have gone I'm suddenly finding myself closer aligned to republicans than democrats on many issues. And I say that as someone who was pro gay marriage back in 92 (I voted for Bill Clinton because he promised during his campaign he'd fight for gays and then betrayed the LGBT movement) and has felt marijuana should be legalized and other drugs decriminalized sice the 90's.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?c47745...on-immigration

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    Quote Originally Posted by TriggerWarning View Post
    LMAO

    You've been drinking the kool aid if you think the dems are centrist.

    Here is a video of Bill Clinton when he was president talking about the dangers of illegal immigration. Its no different than the things Trump is saying today. Clinton is also the one who first banned gays in the military and signed the defense of marriage act which prohibited gays from marrying. What has changed is the the democrats have sprinted to the extreme left and pulled the right with them to the point that what used to be liberal is now mainstream conservative while the left has gone lunatic fringe. I can also give you links to Hilary Clinton calling black teen males "super predators" and her saying as recently as 2013 that gays shouldn't be allowed to marry.

    I've never voted republican in my life and my views haven't really changed much in the last 25 years but because of how far the left the dems have gone I'm suddenly finding myself closer aligned to republicans than democrats on many issues. And I say that as someone who was pro gay marriage back in 92 (I voted for Bill Clinton because he promised during his campaign he'd fight for gays and then betrayed the LGBT movement) and has felt marijuana should be legalized and other drugs decriminalized sice the 90's.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?c47745...on-immigration
    Nice to know somebody here has common sense. Nobody who can analyze what's happening without bias can deny the huge swing to the left of the Democrat party. They are supposed to be working for the people (all the people), not pursuing vendettas against a President because they dislike him. Since 2016, half of the country has become unhinged, and the elected representatives continually fan the flames. Their sole purpose seems to be making Trump's life miserable and ruin his presidency. Doesn't seem to matter if the country goes to hell in the meantime, if they can just pin something on him. They should be ashamed of themselves at the least. They don't even try to disguise their motives anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TriggerWarning View Post
    LMAO

    You've been drinking the kool aid if you think the dems are centrist.

    Here is a video of Bill Clinton when he was president talking about the dangers of illegal immigration. Its no different than the things Trump is saying today. Clinton is also the one who first banned gays in the military and signed the defense of marriage act which prohibited gays from marrying. What has changed is the the democrats have sprinted to the extreme left and pulled the right with them to the point that what used to be liberal is now mainstream conservative while the left has gone lunatic fringe. I can also give you links to Hilary Clinton calling black teen males "super predators" and her saying as recently as 2013 that gays shouldn't be allowed to marry.

    I've never voted republican in my life and my views haven't really changed much in the last 25 years but because of how far the left the dems have gone I'm suddenly finding myself closer aligned to republicans than democrats on many issues. And I say that as someone who was pro gay marriage back in 92 (I voted for Bill Clinton because he promised during his campaign he'd fight for gays and then betrayed the LGBT movement) and has felt marijuana should be legalized and other drugs decriminalized sice the 90's.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?c47745...on-immigration
    Homosexuality had been grounds for discharge in the military since about the time of the American Revolution. In the 1980's the US Navy spent millions of dollars on a manhunt for some woman named "Dorothy" who was friends with too many gay people (I'll let the hilarity of that sink in for those who can figure it out), hoping she could out them for discharge. All that happened well before Clinton was president. Don't Ask, Don't Tell was a flawed policy, but it was actually a step forward - before it was signed, the military would actively try to discover if anyone was homosexual, and then discharge them for it.

    Clinton also was a founding member of the Democratic Leadership Council, which was considered a centrist group. Clinton represented a centrist shift from Democratic politics at the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PwrdOn View Post
    Frankly, talking about reforming the electoral system is a waste of time, because the people who are exploiting the current system to steal elections will just use the same methods to stymie any efforts at reform. Also I don't know why people keep pinning their hopes on third parties, in countries with multi-party systems there still usually end up being two distinct blocs with a governing coalition against an opposition coalition that basically function identically to a two party system anyway.
    The popular vote has put dictators like Maduro and Hitler into power. President Paul von Hindenburg actually had to appoint Hitler as chancellor, because his Nazi party won enough votes to become the largest party in the Reichstag which could not appoint a chancellor but has the power to dismiss a chancellor. Reichstag abused the privilege and dismissed more chancellors than the Reich president did. The Reich President also has the power to dismiss a chancellor. There were 14 chancellors in 14 years.

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    The electoral College favors all states equally. The less populated states have an equal voting power as the more populated states.

    Red states:
    Wyoming: 3 electors
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Lensman View Post
    Homosexuality had been grounds for discharge in the military since about the time of the American Revolution. In the 1980's the US Navy spent millions of dollars on a manhunt for some woman named "Dorothy" who was friends with too many gay people (I'll let the hilarity of that sink in for those who can figure it out), hoping she could out them for discharge. All that happened well before Clinton was president. Don't Ask, Don't Tell was a flawed policy, but it was actually a step forward - before it was signed, the military would actively try to discover if anyone was homosexual, and then discharge them for it.

    Clinton also was a founding member of the Democratic Leadership Council, which was considered a centrist group. Clinton represented a centrist shift from Democratic politics at the time.
    I worded it poorly because as you said gays were already banned. 1992 was the first presidential election I was old enough to vote in and I took it seriously and wanted to vote. Though I'm not gay I even then felt it was the civil rights issue of my generation and fully supported gays being able to serve in the military and felt they should be able to marry. My first real exposure to Clinton promises were when he went on a town hall type thing that MTV (they were big into trying to drive the youth vote back then) hosted for him. In it Clinton was asked point blank about gays and he promised he'd allow gays to serve openly in the military and he promised to allow them to marry. Well we all saw how that worked out when he effectively continued the ban with Don't Ask Don't Tell and then even worse he signed the Defense of Marriage Act which banned gays from being able to marry. His wife was still arguing against gays marrying until 2013. I felt completely betrayed by the Clintons and its part of the reason I despise them both now and why I voted 3rd party last election - Donald Trump was too awful to vote for but there was no way I'd vote for a Clinton again after what Bill did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TriggerWarning View Post
    I worded it poorly because as you said gays were already banned. 1992 was the first presidential election I was old enough to vote in and I took it seriously and wanted to vote. Though I'm not gay I even then felt it was the civil rights issue of my generation and fully supported gays being able to serve in the military and felt they should be able to marry. My first real exposure to Clinton promises were when he went on a town hall type thing that MTV (they were big into trying to drive the youth vote back then) hosted for him. In it Clinton was asked point blank about gays and he promised he'd allow gays to serve openly in the military and he promised to allow them to marry. Well we all saw how that worked out when he effectively continued the ban with Don't Ask Don't Tell and then even worse he signed the Defense of Marriage Act which banned gays from being able to marry. His wife was still arguing against gays marrying until 2013. I felt completely betrayed by the Clintons and its part of the reason I despise them both now and why I voted 3rd party last election - Donald Trump was too awful to vote for but there was no way I'd vote for a Clinton again after what Bill did.
    That's one of the sad things with politics - good ideas can be beaten down and a half-measure can be forced. Here's the wikipedia page on the topic - including some tidbits on how heavy and sneaky the opposition to lifting the ban was at the time.
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