Controversial Opinions (For Everything Other Than DC Comics)

[Kirby101]

I like a black and white world, I certainly prefer it to a lot of the computer coloring these days.

[Agent Z]

Black and white morality is indeed childish in my opinion cause that's simply not how people work and how any sane person should see the world.

We are a very sad bunch of hypocritical, lying apes maybe but it serves us well. We invented rules for ourselves but with always some ways to not follow them.

Just for fun, let's take a look at that old of piece of paper called the bible, that never failing pillar of morality. So, Moise goes up the mountain and god, cause he's cool like that, gives him ten little rules to follow.

Now, black and white right ? That's easy enough. No killing, no wanting to take stuff from other people and all the jazz right?

Except that not even 100 pages later all the gang hits Jericho, killing and stealing other people's shit like they don't care lol. Here's your black and white morality code.

I will repeat:

Recognizing when either applies is the mark of a true adult.

[Gray Lensman]

I will repeat:

Recognizing when either applies is the mark of a true adult.

Pretty much this.

[Zelena]

Just for fun, let's take a look at that old of piece of paper called the bible, that never failing pillar of morality. So, Moise goes up the mountain and god, cause he's cool like that, gives him ten little rules to follow.

Now, black and white right ? That's easy enough. No killing, no wanting to take stuff from other people and all the jazz right?

Except that not even 100 pages later all the gang hits Jericho, killing and stealing other people's shit like they don't care lol. Here's your black and white morality code.

Personally, I prefer the New Testament: greater consistency…

[Kirby101]

Personally, I prefer the New Testament: greater consistency…

Except between the Gospels.

[godisawesome]

I will repeat:

Recognizing when either applies is the mark of a true adult.

And that’s actually where fiction can be handy… or hurtful. It’s useful when it shows where things aren’t black and white, and when they *become* black and white; it’s why Nazis are so uniformly useful as villains in fiction, as there’s almost no scenario where a genuine Nazi isn’t going to be someone any empathetic moral arithmetic wouldn’t label as “evil.” But fiction can also best highlight when war or circumstance remove any such binary morality and truly make situations too tricky to choose a side on; thus why WWI fiction tends to be far more open about acknowledging how few heroes RO villains there are.

It can get tricky or questionable, however, whenever fiction misapplies the formulae: propaganda is basically fiction with a black and white morality used for a manipulative purpose.

Of course, sometimes people can realize when fiction is misapplying morality’s aspects simply as a reason for a less interesting or frustrating story; there’s a reason so many Luke, Rey and Finn fans hated The Last Jedi, because it applied grey morallty in areas than didn’t make sense while still applying black and white elsewhere.

[DrNewGod]

Except between the Gospels.

...and the fact that The Gospels (the foundational narrative) postdate the letters that comprise the doctrinal infrastructure.

[babyblob]

I am a bigger person and I am going to say this. Being Body Positive is fine. I am a large man and I have accepted that and am fine with it. But just because a person is body positive does not mean others are going to be attracted to them. I have seen a couple bigger celebs get made at people who say they are not attractive and they should be ashamed of themselves. I dont think these people have anything to be ashamed of. Is Chrissy Metz body positive? is Lizzo Body positive? yes and they may be great people but if some one is not physically attracted to them because they are bigger does not make them bad people. Physical attraction is a real thing. And a person can be super nice and great and think highly of themselves but if a person is not attracted to you it does not make them bad. So bigger people need to quit being so offended all the time.

I remember years ago when I played piano in New Orleans. After my set I got to talking with a nice looking man. We had a great talk about music and the city we hit it off. We stayed in touch and talked many times over the next few weeks. We clicked. But I asked him on a date and he politely said no. he was not a jerk just told me the truth that he is not attracted to big guys. I respected him for being honest and we stayed friends for the time I lived there.

[OopsIdiditagain]

I agree. I also hate that violent comics are considered as “adult” comics… like “violence” is more realistic than “love” and “ideal”. Quality in fiction isn’t that simplistic.

I feel like as I got older I stop reading things that are violent/dark/gritty and start reading more slice-of-life/idealistic things people consider "unrealistic".

[OopsIdiditagain]

Yes, you should see the world in black and white and don't be like I do what I want and make excuses later.

The only time I like grey is in GoT

Aww, man. The bible is a fairy tale book not worthy of discussion. You can be a good person without following that mumbo jumbo.

Lol I doubt anyone outside of neo-pagans genuinely believes in any Greek mythology but that won't stop people from reading/studying it. I think the Bible holds a lot of value even if it's just for literature.

[DrNewGod]

I feel like as I got older I stop reading things that are violent/dark/gritty and start reading more slice-of-life/idealistic things people consider "unrealistic".

Agreed. I haven't banned such fare altogether, but The Dark better have a very important part to play in the story, or I'm out. Graphic as they could be, I can watch Band of Brothers or The Pacific, but I'd have to be duck-taped into a chair to watch a Segal movie again.

[babyblob]

I feel like as I got older I stop reading things that are violent/dark/gritty and start reading more slice-of-life/idealistic things people consider "unrealistic".

I am the same way. As a kid I loved the violent but it was more of a look at how adult I am watching someone get killed on tv. With My media I dont do dark and violent often. I hate the Saw movies, No message just gore porn. In comics the most I get were the Punisher Max and I havnt read that in a long time. Tried my hand at the Indy comic Something Is Killing The Children and while it was ok at first it just got too over the top with kids being killed pretty much ever panel it seemed. It could have been a cool story. but they went with shock value on look at how many kids I can kill in one issue.,

[Kirby101]

As a kid, the dark gritty stuff confirms it is a f'ed up world to us. As an adult, we've lived with the f'ed up crap enough not to want to watch it. We don't need the confirmation.

[batnbreakfast]

As a kid, the dark gritty stuff confirms it is a f'ed up world to us. As an adult, we've lived with the f'ed up crap enough not to want to watch it. We don't need the confirmation.

!!!True!!!

[numberthirty]

Agreed. I haven't banned such fare altogether, but The Dark better have a very important part to play in the story, or I'm out. Graphic as they could be, I can watch Band of Brothers or The Pacific, but I'd have to be duck-taped into a chair to watch a Segal movie again.

Stop watching them as the films that their creators intended them to be.

Marked For Death?

Totally brilliant once you watch it as something along the lines of a Universal horror film where Screwface is the monster.

Most of the other films?

Completely stellar unintended comedy films.

In addition to the obvious stuff like Half Past Dead/Exit Wounds being great unintended comedy flicks, Danny Trejo/Eddie Griffin playing warring crime outfit heads in Urban Justice?

Hilarious.