What is ANAD? I'm Confused.

[ImprobableQuestion]

Thanks,

Does it explain how this is done? Is it like a magic object that gives you your Ernest wish, or, is it just a playing token and you end up with strength 8 and magic 5? Is there a definition section in the game that describes Iso-8 specifically?

It's a crystal. Exposure to it increases one's power. Or helps you get chimichangas if you ask Deadpool. The normal stuff is purple but there's a more unstable version that's red. Osborn uses it to juice up his soldiers so they can fight superheroes.

[Seren]

Quote Originally Posted by Dispenser Of Truth View Post
Ewing participated in an interview on the Marvel website last week where he elaborated on what's going on with Iso-8 and what it does. The high points:

* As made clear in Ultimates, this is the same as Neutronium, Blue Marvel's area of study, now in a stable configuration since Secret Wars and therefore both usable and existing in great supply (particularly in 'Battlerealm', the remains of the Secret Wars universe).
* While it's not stated outright, Ewing makes clear that this is the material of the Cosmic Cubes, which were previously made with artificial Iso-8.
* S.H.I.E.L.D. got some Iso-8 in Captain America, though they may not be fully aware of what they have on their hands.
* The 'Iso-Sphere' being constructed by the Collector in Contest of Champions "makes the cosmic cube look like a lump of burnt coal".
* Iso-8 acts as a 'cosmic counter' of iterations of the Marvel Omniverse (rebirths of just 616 or other parallel Earths, as Ewing notes, are a dime a dozen). The previous, 7th iteration of the Multiverse (presumably home to the unstable Iso-7) was what was destroyed in Secret Wars. The 6th was Galactus' universe, "a place of pure Kirby science", while the 5th was a realm of dark magic home to Moridun, who's causing trouble in Ewing's New Avengers. He has rough ideas for the first four universes, but that's something to be explored much later on.
* Cosmic artifacts of major power are going to be proliferating like never before as a consequence of Iso-8's very existence.

Welp that explains the Sky Spears in All New Inhumans.

[jackolover]

Quote Originally Posted by Dispenser Of Truth View Post
Ewing participated in an interview on the Marvel website last week where he elaborated on what's going on with Iso-8 and what it does. The high points:

* As made clear in Ultimates, this is the same as Neutronium, Blue Marvel's area of study, now in a stable configuration since Secret Wars and therefore both usable and existing in great supply (particularly in 'Battlerealm', the remains of the Secret Wars universe).
* While it's not stated outright, Ewing makes clear that this is the material of the Cosmic Cubes, which were previously made with artificial Iso-8.
* S.H.I.E.L.D. got some Iso-8 in Captain America, though they may not be fully aware of what they have on their hands.
* The 'Iso-Sphere' being constructed by the Collector in Contest of Champions "makes the cosmic cube look like a lump of burnt coal".
* Iso-8 acts as a 'cosmic counter' of iterations of the Marvel Omniverse (rebirths of just 616 or other parallel Earths, as Ewing notes, are a dime a dozen). The previous, 7th iteration of the Multiverse (presumably home to the unstable Iso-7) was what was destroyed in Secret Wars. The 6th was Galactus' universe, "a place of pure Kirby science", while the 5th was a realm of dark magic home to Moridun, who's causing trouble in Ewing's New Avengers. He has rough ideas for the first four universes, but that's something to be explored much later on.
* Cosmic artifacts of major power are going to be proliferating like never before as a consequence of Iso-8's very existence.

Welp that explains the Sky Spears in All New Inhumans.

It sure sounds like ANAD is not your mamas 616 anymore.

[Tiamatty]

It sure sounds like ANAD is not your mamas 616 anymore.

Except it is pretty much is. It really, so much is. There are some minor changes. I mean, the biggest change is entirely a cosmetic one: The Iso-8 being an easy of justifying new cosmic Macguffins whenever writers feel like using them. But it's not like writers needed that easy justification, anyway, since they already had the easy justification of "this is a thing that exists but it just never happened to show up in any stories before."

[jackolover]

I'm starting to notice things and people are being transferred from Battleworld, like Red Wolf, and, Old Man Logan in an alley, and, the wishing well from Where Maestro, (now in Battlerealm), was tricked into guarding the Destroyer armor with Rick Jones, and, Rick Jones is now a Hulk in Battle realm. So even though ANAD looks like the old 616, it is starting to take on some of the aspects of Battleworld more and more too. Then there is the sudden appearance of Ultimate End Domain in Contest of Champions. How did that get to ANAD?

[Reality]

I'm starting to notice things and people are being transferred from Battleworld, like Red Wolf, and, Old Man Logan in an alley, and, the wishing well from Where Maestro, (now in Battlerealm), was tricked into guarding the Destroyer armor with Rick Jones, and, Rick Jones is now a Hulk in Battle realm. So even though ANAD looks like the old 616, it is starting to take on some of the aspects of Battleworld more and more too. Then there is the sudden appearance of Ultimate End Domain in Contest of Champions. How did that get to ANAD?

We have no confirmation that the CC Maestro is the same one as the one from Dystopia. Or the one who wasn't trapped there in Secret Wars proper.

And that definitely isn't the same Rick Jones- that's just one from the multiverse. He was the original Hulk of his universe and wouldn't know Banner at all.

And the codenamed arena in CC called Ultimate End appears to be either a simulation or a recreation of the domain from Battleworld. It's not a real place. There were no people there. Battleworld is dead, but Battlerealm is rich in Iso-8 and appears to retain some information from BW. So they can simulate it. It isn't real.

ANAD is the 616 with some new elements added. Axel Alonso has been saying this the whole time. It isn't "taking on aspects of Battleworld more and more." It has some carryover, such as a few new locations and characters.

That's all.

[jackolover]

We have no confirmation that the CC Maestro is the same one as the one from Dystopia. Or the one who wasn't trapped there in Secret Wars proper.

And that definitely isn't the same Rick Jones- that's just one from the multiverse. He was the original Hulk of his universe and wouldn't know Banner at all.

And the codenamed arena in CC called Ultimate End appears to be either a simulation or a recreation of the domain from Battleworld. It's not a real place. There were no people there. Battleworld is dead, but Battlerealm is rich in Iso-8 and appears to retain some information from BW. So they can simulate it. It isn't real.

ANAD is the 616 with some new elements added. Axel Alonso has been saying this the whole time. It isn't "taking on aspects of Battleworld more and more." It has some carryover, such as a few new locations and characters.

That's all.

The Rick Jones Hulk would be an alternate reality one, sure.

But isn't it curious they called that arena the Ultimate End one? That designation is particularly Battleworld related and nowhere else. As much as Alonso states ANAD is the 616, we can't get away from the fact Battleworld tropes are appearing here. "Carryover", or "more and more " like Battleworld, what difference does it make? That wishing well from that Norse cave in Secret Wars that defeated Maestro looks a lot like the wishing Iso-8 the Collector is using with a defeated Maestro, to me.

[Reality]

The Rick Jones Hulk would be an alternate reality one, sure.

But isn't it curious they called that arena the Ultimate End one? That designation is particularly Battleworld related and nowhere else. As much as Alonso states ANAD is the 616, we can't get away from the fact Battleworld tropes are appearing here. "Carryover", or "more and more " like Battleworld, what difference does it make? That wishing well from that Norse cave in Secret Wars that defeated Maestro looks a lot like the wishing Iso-8 the Collector is using with a defeated Maestro, to me.

How does a well look like a golden sphere? And Iso-8 didn't exist until after Battleworld, so that's impossible.

Battlerealm is the corpse of Battleworld. They're using Iso-8 to simulate the arena based on that for entertainment. It doesn't mean anything more than that. Moreover, Battlerealm isn't really the 616, so what happens there is not relevant to its workings.

[ETMike1988]

Okay! So... Was Bendis' previous run on GotG starting from the Black Vortex event took place after the end of the Secret Wars - so during the second eight month skip!? In both Hickman's Time Runs Out and Secret Wars, some members were still in their pre-Black Vortex form and Peter was still a member and leader of the team!

And in Time Runs Out, the Supreme Intelligence shown to be alive!

[Tiamatty]

Okay! So... Was Bendis' previous run on GotG starting from the Black Vortex event took place after the end of the Secret Wars - so during the second eight month skip!? In both Hickman's Time Runs Out and Secret Wars, some members were still in their pre-Black Vortex form and Peter was still a member and leader of the team!

And in Time Runs Out, the Supreme Intelligence shown to be alive!

See, this can be easily explained by *runs out the door*

The serious answer is "don't sweat it." It's an inconsistency, yes, but that happens a lot. This one's a bit bigger than most, but still not a big deal.

[ETMike1988]

See, this can be easily explained by *runs out the door*

The serious answer is "don't sweat it." It's an inconsistency, yes, but that happens a lot. This one's a bit bigger than most, but still not a big deal.

Isn't it pretty ironic that it is Bendis who screw up other writers continuity by his stories and now one of his stories continuity got heavily screwed up by other write (Hickman)!

[jackolover]

Were the Major Events of the Marvel Universe the symptoms of the Incursions? From CW to AXIS.

We just witnessed the transition of the 616 from a certainty to exist, to, a place where it is uncertain the 616 will remain the same anymore. The 616 entered a new realm where if it doesn't adapt, it will disappear?

[Custodes]

The garbage started long before Secret Wars, which was a two month further delay, added onto the already too lengthy period, until we have a proper Marvel Universe back. Whenever that may be.

This is not The Marvel Universe.

[MyriVerse]

Nope, not true. This is Universe 8, as in the eighth iteration of the entire cosmos, multiverse, omniverse, whatever you want to call it. The previous one, before Time Runs Out and Secret Wars, was the seventh. This is indicated by the changing pattern of 'neutronium', which now has an 8-sided structure and forms 'Cosmic Cube fragments' called Iso-8 (seen in Contest of Champions and Ultimates so far, with confirmation that this is the eighth cosmos in places like New Avengers). We've already gotten stories showing that most of the old numbering for individual universes is intact.

What about the dozens of times before that the universe was destroyed and recreated?

[Tiamatty]

Were the Major Events of the Marvel Universe the symptoms of the Incursions? From CW to AXIS.

We just witnessed the transition of the 616 from a certainty to exist, to, a place where it is uncertain the 616 will remain the same anymore. The 616 entered a new realm where if it doesn't adapt, it will disappear?

No. To this entire post. No, the other events have had no relation at all to the Incursions. And no, the 616 won't disappear. It won't be destroyed. It's at no more risk than it's ever been.