All Star Batman & Robin original creative team?

[Jon-El]

I was listening to an old podcast that featured an interview with Bob Schreck & he mentioned another writer was originally assigned to this series. I was just curious who it was.

[MykeHavoc]

Jeph Loeb. It was to be a creative team followup to Hush. If I'm not mistaken, he was also planned as the writer of All-Star Batman vol 2 with Art Adams on pencils, but the project was eventually scrapped. Some of the unfinished art for the first issue has been released online.

[DGraysonWorldsGreatestSpy]

Jeph Loeb. It was to be a creative team followup to Hush. If I'm not mistaken, he was also planned as the writer of All-Star Batman vol 2 with Art Adams on pencils, but the project was eventually scrapped. Some of the unfinished art for the first issue has been released online.

While Miller is a better/legendary writer than Loeb I think if they went this way we would had a much better story since Miller works in his own Batman world which is much more Darker and Bruce is more of a Military Special Operative than a Detective.

[t hedge coke]

While Miller is a better/legendary writer than Loeb I think if they went this way we would had a much better story since Miller works in his own Batman world which is much more Darker and Bruce is more of a Military Special Operative than a Detective.

I'm not sure Loeb writes Batman as a great detective, in practice, but why would that make for a better story?

And, is not Batman actively tracking down leads and processing clues in the All-Star we got?

[DGraysonWorldsGreatestSpy]

I'm not sure Loeb writes Batman as a great detective, in practice, but why would that make for a better story?

And, is not Batman actively tracking down leads and processing clues in the All-Star we got?

Yeah I may have generalized too much on the detective part. I think it would have been better story because Miller does not write Dick Grayson/Robin with much appreciation and tends to disregard anything that makes the character who he is. ASBAR had some nice parts especially between Bruce-Dick but Carrie Kelly is the perfect Robin to him and Dick will never measure up to Bruce's Standards even though as Batman he showed very little concern for his well being after witnessing his parents shot in the head by kidnapping him and everything else

[JBatmanFan05]

Loeb would have been much better, how sad we didn't get that.

[t hedge coke]

Yeah I may have generalized too much on the detective part. I think it would have been better story because Miller does not write Dick Grayson/Robin with much appreciation and tends to disregard anything that makes the character who he is.

He was portrayed as brilliant, passionate, scared, brave, a natural detective, a natural fighter, and eager to confront crime and bullying.

DKSA's Dick is pretty bad, but All-Star... Dick was about as superhero as a kid can get.

ASBAR had some nice parts especially between Bruce-Dick but Carrie Kelly is the perfect Robin to him and Dick will never measure up to Bruce's Standards even though as Batman he showed very little concern for his well being after witnessing his parents shot in the head by kidnapping him and everything else

He did kidnap him, but since the police and presumably city officials were trying to kill him, and were fine with beating or killing Vicki and Alfred... well, who's he going to turn him over to?

Batman spends most of All-Star fronting as hard as he can and everyone calls him out on it. He can't stop and be compassionate with anyone, Dick, Alfred, Gordon, Canary... until he realizes he has to stop and be compassionate. Did you miss him hugging Dick? That, as far as I can tell, is the point of All-Star. Batman needed Dick, he needed a Robin, to remind him to be human and humane. Someone to be responsible for.

The only reason "and Robin, the Boy Wonder" in the title of All-Star is because Miller wanted it there.

[Drz]

While Miller is a better/legendary writer than Loeb I think if they went this way we would had a much better story since Miller works in his own Batman world which is much more Darker and Bruce is more of a Military Special Operative than a Detective.

Miller's Batman has been a better detective than Loeb has ever shown Batman capable of being. Batman does detective work in pretty much all of Miller's book, while Batman is stumbling and always 3 steps behind the Holiday killer in TLH.