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    Quote Originally Posted by fabulousmax View Post
    Well like the x-men they were cowards and were hiding from Thanos.

    Again, Black Bolt used the bomb the save the world. It's mitigating circumstance like self-defence. Not all allegations go to trial if the prosecutor knows he will not win the case. Do you even know any sort of law?



    Good thing he didnt fucked up then. Because it worked, Thane as a result of his terrigenesis stopped Thanos.

    The whole world couldnt be happier and no trial was needed.
    Mutants dont count because they obviously didnt consider themselves part of the world and played no part in trying to save the world.
    Please stop insulting the intelligence of everyone who actually read Infinity and saw the X-men fighting Thanos in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emma's Midriff View Post
    Re: Old man Logan: Impossible. The X-men are alive. Try again. X-23 was literally mind controlled and conditioned to be a weapon. I don't know why you think that's not a valid defense. Try again.

    Re: Jeen: Jeen killed nobody. Try again.

    Re: Magneto: Please provide evidence that Magneto and his team have committed genocide. (hint: it should look a lot like M-day or the T-bomb)
    Old wolverine killed all the x-men from his time. So another x-men avoiding justice for his crimes. Well if mind control is a defence, self-defence on a global scale against Thanos works as well.

    Adult Jean did and escaped justice because her 2 deaths are worth more than the billions of d'bari.

    Alright so its only genocide if the victims are mutants. Magneto's mass murder of humans (as recently as his solo) dont count. Hypocrisy indeed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Emma's Midriff View Post
    Please stop insulting the intelligence of everyone who actually read Infinity and saw the X-men fighting Thanos in it.
    They didnt even see Thanos, pissed their pants at Supergiant (who the inhumans defeated) and Corvus Glaive (who was stopped by the inhuman Thane).
    They got put to sleep by Supergiant in their first encounter and never showed their faces again. Kinda tame considering what happened to Wakanda.

    Also, supergiant went to them, the x-men were never actually out there taking the fight to Thanos, like the rest of the world did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fabulousmax View Post
    Well tell that to Hiroshima and Nagasaki. But no one cared because it worked and ended WW2.
    LMFAO, this is hilarious. No one cared? Everyone cared and the majority of us all still care to this day. The minority that don't should also care if they aren't sociopaths.

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    Again, the X-men are alive so Old Man Logan has nothing to answer for. Unless Black Bolt was being mind controlled, he doesn't have an excuse for what he did.

    Adult Jean is dead so whether or not she should be brought to justice is moot. I would give Black Bolt the same courtesy had he been killed.

    I'm simply asking you to provide evidence that any of these characters have actually committed genocide, which you haven't been able to do. I can't excuse anything if you don't provide evidence in the first place. Who did Magneto commit genocide against in his solo? He killed people, for sure, but I don't remember genocide.


    As for Infinity, I'm glad you've finally decided to stop lying and saying the X-men weren't involved. They were, they just lost. You've come a long way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    LMFAO, this is hilarious. No one cared? Everyone cared and the majority of us all still care to this day. The minority that don't should also care if they aren't sociopaths.
    So was there a trial that you care so much about? Against the president of the United States or the pilot that dropped the bomb? I'm someone cares about the cowardly mutants as well.

    But since according to you there needs to be a trial for everything. The US must surely be put on trial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fabulousmax View Post
    So was there a trial that you care so much about? Against the president of the United States or the pilot that dropped the bomb? I'm someone cares about the cowardly mutants as well.

    But since according to you there needs to be a trial for everything. The US must surely be put on trial.
    Did every country in the world reflect on the rules of war and their own nuclear weapons? Did any of those countries have the power to force the USA to put anyone on trial? Everyone cares both massacres were a wake up call to the entire world.

    Keep in mind this is after both incidents even in the MU. If someone was evil enough or stupid enough to drop a nuke on anybody in this day and age there would definitely hell to pay, regardless of the reason.
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    Repeatedly calling mutants cowards for no reason does more to undermine your point than support it, TBH.

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    Operation - Galactic Storm half the Avengers become judge, jury and so they thought executioner for the Supreme Intelligence and the Nega Bomb. They were so disgusted by that heinous act.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    Did every country in the world reflect on the rules of war and their own nuclear weapons? Did any of those countries have the power to force the USA to put anyone on trial? Everyone cares both massacres were a wake up call to the entire world.

    Keep in mind this is after both incidents even in the MU. If someone was evil enough or stupid enough to drop a nuke on anybody in this day and age there would definitely hell to pay, regardless of the reason.
    What do you mean reflect on the rules of war and their own nuclear weapons? 8 countries have since developed nuclear weapons. And the development and testing has also caused deaths to those living near.

    So if having power like the USA means that you don't have to be put to trial. Well Black Bolt himself has plenty of power as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fabulousmax View Post
    What do you mean reflect on the rules of war and their own nuclear weapons? 8 countries have since developed nuclear weapons. And the development and testing has also caused deaths to those living near.

    So if having power like the USA means that you don't have to be put to trial. Well Black Bolt has plenty of power as well.
    And several have dismantled their entire arsenal e.g. South Africa. The USA dismantled over 60,000 of their own nukes too and they haven't produced any new ones. It's not seen as a weapon of war but as a deterrent rather than a weapon. Both Nagasaki and Hiroshima shocked the world. There are rules against biological warfare etc...

    Blackbolt isn't being trialled by others, he broke Inhuman laws thus he'd be trialled by inhumans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    And several have dismantled their entire arsenal e.g. South Africa. The USA dismantled over 60,000 of their own nukes too. It's not seen as a weapon of war but as a deterrent rather than a weapon. Both Nagasaki and Hiroshima shocked the world. There are rules against biological warfare etc...

    Blackbolt isn't being trialled by others, he broke Inhuman laws thus he'd be trialled by inhumans.
    Only South Africa has dismantled. The other nuclear states while not increasing their arsenal has continued to improve it.

    So why hasnt the USA put the president and the pilot on trial? Face it as devastating as the weapon turned out to be, it was necessary at the time and no one would be put on trial.
    It is the same with Black Bolt.

    Also, Thanos is more dangerous than the already defeated Japs were.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fabulousmax View Post
    Only South Africa has dismantled. The other nuclear states while not increasing their arsenal has continued to improve it.

    So why hasnt the USA put the president and the pilot on trial? Face it as devastating as the weapon turned out to be, it was necessary at the time and no one would be put on trial.
    It is the same with Black Bolt.

    Also, Thanos is more dangerous than the already defeated Japs were.
    That's a question for people who live in the USA to reflect of their own foreign policies besides all of those people would be dead or near dead by now anyway. It wasn't necessary at all. Even at the time.

    It's not the same with Black Bolt, he's alive and admitted his crimes. And Medusa who is the law at the moment knows about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    That's a question for people who live in the USA to reflect of their own foreign policies besides all of those people would be dead or near dead by now anyway. It wasn't necessary at all. Even at the time.

    It's not the same with Black Bolt, he's alive and admitted his crimes. And Medusa who is the law at the moment knows about this.
    Well when the president and the pilot was alive. Why was nothing done?
    The complex also seem to support collective punishment on inhumans, should the USA suffer overdue punishment for the nukes?

    What the USA did then is what Medusa is doing now. You might not consider it necassary but you weren't there during WW2 or hypothetically fighting Thanos.

    Medusa as the law know that there is no crime was committed by Black Bolt. He did what was necessary to defeat Black Bolt and it worked.

    What happened to mutants, no one saw coming just like the generations of japs poisoned by radiation.
    And from when the x-men were out shopping and nothing happened to them when they were exposed, shows that writers didnt know either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fabulousmax View Post
    Well when the president and the pilot was alive. Why was nothing done?

    What the USA did then is what Medusa is doing now. You might not consider it necassary but you weren't there during WW2 or hypothetically fighting Thanos.

    Medusa as the law know that there is no crime was committed by Black Bolt. He did what was necessary to defeat Black Bolt and it worked.

    What happened to mutants, no one saw coming just like the generations of japs poisoned by radiation.
    And from when the x-men were out shopping and nothing happened to them when they were exposed, shows that writers didnt know either.
    Again, the USA isn't a homogenous place there were people calling for "justice" just like there are people calling for justice over the illegal invasion of Iraq and the resulting problem of Daesh. Why the USA didn't do anything, again that is a question for the people who reside in the USA and how they feel about their own foreign policy and whether they feel disillusioned in a plutocracy. If you look at the rest of the world and how they view both Hiroshima and Nagasaki niether is viewed as necessary or in a good light.

    Blackbolt thought (keyword here) what he was doing was necessary. Just like how Speedball thought he was helping when Nitro blew himself up. Just because you thought it was he was doing something right does not make it right. Additionally, there's the added problem of him using the holy terrigen crystals to make that bomb which is a crime punishable by death. Medusa and Crystal even talk about it being Blackbolts mess this issue. Furthermore, when asked about the T-Cloud she states it was "rogue actors" meaning the Inhumans are distancing themselves from it as much as possible. If it was viewed as something heroic there's no reason why they wouldn't happily take responsibility for it. The Inhumans themselves are aware of what Blackbolt did was wrong from the context of this issue alone.

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    Again, we don't know what Black Bolt was unaware of the negative effects on mutants. He certainly hasn't said so, or even indicated that he was. He hasn't shown any sort of remorse or guilt for the dying mutants. He's the resident expert on Terrigen, and it's been proven to have a negative effect on mutants before. Let's not confuse speculation with fact. I'm excited to find out whether or not he knew.

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