Ultimates 2 *Spoilers*

[Darthkostis]

Well come to think of it, grown ass men arguing the merits of fictional characters is a bit "silly"

Then what are you doing in a comic book board? Do you expect to find a conversation about Tolstoy's works or debate the existance of the 11 dimensions? I mean, this is a book about a Latina who can open portals to other universes and a King wearing a Giant Cat outfit who's also a better scientist than all of SERN combined. And other books feature a psycho who worships a Bird-God, attractive people with superpowers being persecuted and a walking time-bomb. You're in a superhero comic book board, so please, if you have nothing to say for the matter at hand, refrain from using the always tired "I have nothing to say, so I'll call the person stoopid for losing his time with such trivial nonsense to apear as an intellectual"-Said the guy with an icon of a Purple Tyrant who wants to bone Death and would kill the Universe to do so. See, both can play this "game".

[Some Guy]

To those who seemed upset that the Ultimates were able to knock Galactus off balance.

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[XPac]

To those who seemed upset that the Ultimates were able to knock Galactus off balance.

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Frankly I recall people bothered by that too.

I respect the heck out of Thanos, but Starlin being Starlin throw the Big G under the bus in that fight.

[t hedge coke]

Frankly I recall people bothered by that too.

I respect the heck out of Thanos, but Starlin being Starlin throw the Big G under the bus in that fight.

We've also seen the Invisible Woman, Doom, Stephen Strange, Thor, Hercules, Mar-Vell (maybe?), and Rachel Summers stagger him with blows.

Going back to Stern, Monica is Superman-level in terms of raw power. And she's smart, working in concert with other very smart people.

is it jobbing Galactus? At this point, it's just how it works.

[Ken Ashcroft]

Everyone gets thrown under the buses when up against Thanos as far as Starlin is concerned!

[Joe Acro]

The first couple of Ultimates issues raises a few questions. If the ISO is now complete, but wasn't before, does that mean there have been seven previous iterations of the universe? If so, what were they? And how can the Collector and the Grandmaster have an ISO sphere if they're fighting outside the regular universe?

At the end of Secret Wars, we're left with the impression that Black Panther went back to the scene of the first incursion, yet no incursion occurred. Does this mean he worked on establishing the Triskelion and the Alpha Flight program instead of being in the Illuminati?

Finally, if Galactus was always intended to be a force of life, does that mean the Phoenix was always intended to be a force of death? I admit, that does seem to be more keeping with what we've seen the Phoenix actually do.

[itspopularnowitsucks]

The first couple of Ultimates issues raises a few questions. If the ISO is now complete, but wasn't before, does that mean there have been seven previous iterations of the universe? If so, what were they? And how can the Collector and the Grandmaster have an ISO sphere if they're fighting outside the regular universe?

In case you did miss New Avengers, the fifth iteration refuge shows up there.

[Joe Acro]

In case you did miss New Avengers, the fifth iteration refuge shows up there.

I haven't been reading New Avengers. Someone from the fifth iteration is alive?

[itspopularnowitsucks]

I haven't been reading New Avengers. Someone from the fifth iteration is alive?

Not technically wholesomely alive, but yes he is a space wizard from the fifth cosmos.

[Ciriaco]

And we all know and love the people from the 7th iteration. We also know one from the 6th; Galan.

[Joe Acro]

Not technically wholesomely alive, but yes he is a space wizard from the fifth cosmos.

Interesting.

And we all know and love the people from the 7th iteration. We also know one from the 6th; Galan.

That might be what they mean, but they might also be counting those other times the universe was destroyed and came back, like in Dr. Strange or Captain Marvel. Galan's might be universe 0.

[itspopularnowitsucks]

That might be what they mean, but they might also be counting those other times the universe was destroyed and came back, like in Dr. Strange or Captain Marvel. Galan's might be universe 0.

No. Galan is from the Sixth Cosmos, described as Kirby Science-verse by Ewing. Pre Secret Wars is the Seventh Cosmos. Fifth Cosmos is Lovecraftian, but it is not connected to Cancerverse - although Ewing doesn't object the idea, he doesn't care about it. These are known.

[Joe Acro]

No. Galan is from the Sixth Cosmos, described as Kirby Science-verse by Ewing. Pre Secret Wars is the Seventh Cosmos. Fifth Cosmos is Lovecraftian, but it is not connected to Cancerverse - although Ewing doesn't object the idea, he doesn't care about it. These are known.

Oh. Well. That's just odd.