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    If writers were smart to explore it, Peter would have accepted killing long ago to comphrend the same things a police man or a solider would when faced with a serious issue of upholding human lives in the long term and placing the integrity of life without constraints of moral simplicity. Peter should figured out that people still die or suffer even when one doesn't kill a enemy for the longer-term.

    Even Deadpool in one his issues understands that its better to kill evil than to save it or prevent it from being able to kill another day in cold blood. Spiderman is hardly in any position to preech what it means to be responsible as person who has destroyed as much live as hes saved in his life as a heroic figure of community service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phantom1592 View Post
    The real question is why would he be friends with Wolverine?

    Peter has LONG had a serious stand that heroes don't kill, and he outright HATES the punisher. He may work with him for the greater good... but he really can't stand the man. I remember being ticked when Wolverine became an avenger to 'do what cap and iron man couldn't...' The man who once broke up the avengers because they voted to kill supreme intelligence... now feels the need for a wetwork division??? it's crazy.

    Spider-man should be the same. He has his standards... and he really wouldn't compromise them for Logan. Regardless of how popular they both are and how much publishers think they sell books...

    Same should be with Wolverine. This... acceptance of kill happy Logan goes against so much of what he was that it's mindboggling. Even in the early x-men.. the goal was to help him to control his berserk rages and to keep him from killing people... Instead of changing and improving him... the world just started to accept and encourage his violence.

    Wolverine and Punisher are killers... but they are more stoic killers. They have the philosophy that they 'HAVE' to do it or that it's for the best.

    Deadpool however??? He's a bit more giddy about the killing. Joking while doing it... and last I checked got paid to do it...

    In what world WOULD Spider-man and Deadpool be believable as friends??

    Spider-man has always been about helping bad people redeem themselves. Ex-villains that want to go straight, he's got their back. Happy giddy killers with no interest in changing... Yeah, I don't see him condoning that.
    The bolded, because it's actually a very compelling philosophical argument that speaks to how much more cynical we got as a society and culture in the 1990s and onward, though it may have started in the 1980s. It also somewhat dovetails with the idea that as comics started to be accepted and pushed as something more than just "entertainment for kids," there was less pressure for superheroes to appear as good role models for young(er) readers, hence the loosening of standards around killing bad guys or other morally ambiguous actions that heroes in mainstream comics otherwise wouldn't have been depicted committing or condoning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurolegacy View Post
    Which makes no sense since he's great friends with Wolverine. And given his respect for Cap, you'd think that he'd trust his judgement even if it came to Deadpool.
    Wolverine kills out of necessity. Deadpool, not so much... and jokes about it, which is disgusting behaviour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MyriVerse View Post
    Wolverine kills out of necessity. Deadpool, not so much... and jokes about it, which is disgusting behaviour.
    Some could call it the darker side of Spiderman joking in a fight with people who fight him. Wolverine always doesn't kill for a greater purpose either, he kills because he's a animalistic savage who goes by his code of warrior ethics.

    Deadpool also has a code of honor which prevents him from killing almost anybody, like children and some women for instance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimishim12 View Post
    Some could call it the darker side of Spiderman joking in a fight with people who fight him.
    That in and of itself could be what bugs Pete most about Deadpool. It hits closer to home when someone as "moral reprehensible" as Deadpool is constantly compared to him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonEchidna View Post
    That in and of itself could be what bugs Pete most about Deadpool. It hits closer to home when someone as "moral reprehensible" as Deadpool is constantly compared to him.
    Well in the first issue, it's confirmed Peter holds a hatred for Wade above and beyond even the Punisher in teaming up with a killer. I mean I found it odd Peter disliked Wade so much his words to him were just venom, not even Osborn got a mouth full of Peter's contempt.

    maybe that'll change since it hinted Wade was a little similar to Peter when he started out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimishim12 View Post
    Well in the first issue, it's confirmed Peter holds a hatred for Wade above and beyond even the Punisher in teaming up with a killer. I mean I found it odd Peter disliked Wade so much his words to him were just venom, not even Osborn got a mouth full of Peter's contempt.

    maybe that'll change since it hinted Wade was a little similar to Peter when he started out.
    I doubt having a few superficial similarities is going to make Peter and Wade friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
    I doubt having a few superficial similarities is going to make Peter and Wade friends.
    Why Peter has been able to work with almost everyone and befriend them, even Loki.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimishim12 View Post
    Why Peter has been able to work with almost everyone and befriend them, even Loki.
    Working with someone and being friends with them are two very different things.

    Superman and Lex Luthot are currently on the Justice League together but they are far from friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimishim12 View Post
    Why Peter has been able to work with almost everyone and befriend them, even Loki.
    Not so much friendship, as Peter sympathizing with Loki's goal to rescue his daughter from the witch possessing her and realizing that they had a few things in common, both being outcasts from their respective societies and not necessarily by choice. On Loki's end, he did respect Peter enough to offer him one favor, at any time he needed it . . . which would've been a much better way of doing OMD if that had to be done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonEchidna View Post
    That in and of itself could be what bugs Pete most about Deadpool. It hits closer to home when someone as "moral reprehensible" as Deadpool is constantly compared to him.
    Peter is just a stingy emotional puppy, he hates what he doesn't understand. And Wade pretty much knows what he's doing when he acts like he does, so I see no problem Peter being morally offended unless he understands the reason killers do what they do.

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    Because anti heroes and paragon heroes can never coexist and if they did it would be OOC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mysterio1989 View Post
    Because anti heroes and paragon heroes can never coexist and if they did it would be OOC.
    DP seems to get along well with Daredevil sometimes.

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    And my point still stands as OOC especially if Daredevil seems okay with DP when showing aggressive tendencies towards Punisher.

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