[Possible Spoilers] Uh Oh...is "Captain America: Civil War" going...there...?

[MichaelC]

He wasn't dead when Tony did it in the comics either, IIRC, just elsewhere. But you're right. As I said in the OP, the writers may have taken a more ballsy route and it could be the actual Thor that kills GM. Setting up for a new bearer of the Hammer (I suspect a female.)

As for Tony not being an a******...did you watch Avengers 2?

You mean when he was affected by Scarlet Witch's mental powers and literally wasn't in his right mind?

[dragonmp93]

You mean when he was affected by Scarlet Witch's mental powers and literally wasn't in his right mind?

Yep, that time.

[PhantomStranger]

You mean when he was affected by Scarlet Witch's mental powers and literally wasn't in his right mind?

And still isn't in his right mind. The Movie SRA and Movie Ultron stem from the same impulse, regardless of source: paranoid over-protectiveness of the Earth.

[Carabas]

He wasn't dead when Tony did it in the comics either, IIRC, just elsewhere. But you're right. As I said in the OP, the writers may have taken a more ballsy route and it could be the actual Thor that kills GM. Setting up for a new bearer of the Hammer (I suspect a female.)

anybody wh thinks Disney is going to put more female characters than absolutely strictly necessary in their Marvel films (nevermind having a woman take over a main franchise) seriously has not been paying attention.

Anyway, Chris Hemsworth is NOT even in Civil War.
And even if they were going for all-new female Thor... there's this film called Thor: Ragnarok coming up? Kind of a really big hint in the title alone about how current Thor can be written out. No Civil War needed.

[Mary Jay]

Wait, if Thor kill Giant Man, and Giant Man is Scott Lang, then who is the protagonist of Ant-man and the Wasp ?

One word: prequel

But seriously, the idea that Lang could be killed in Civil War (like Bill Foster was in the comics) never crossed my mind. IIRC, Rudd has a 3-movie contract with Marvel.

Yet, now that I think about it... it does kind of make sense. Still, I don't think it will happen.

[Mary Jay]

He already knows advanced genetics. It was an equation he scribbled on the back of his name-tag while drunk that made Extremis work.

I still doubt MCU-Tony (or comics Tony, btw) could all by himself clone a person. In the comics, Reed Richards was there, along with that Skrull-Pym who had all the same expertise in the matter that the real Pym had. I mean, Stark is clever and everything, but there's a limit, IMHO.

[SuperiorIronman]

I thought Chris Hemsworth wasn't in this film. Its not much of a clone if it isn't a clone. This wouldn't be an X-23 situation where clone is just an easy way to solve a convoluted origin. This is Thor, but not Thor and Thor isn't in this movie.

Now we do know that War Machine in the movie gets a plasma cannon which doubles as a baton, as well as has a bigger armor. Relatively recently, though it was likely a typo he was called War hammer. It wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility for Tony to outfit an Avenger to pick up the slack if Thor is off world at the moment. Stark also has no reason to clone Thor nor does it have any set up in the previous films. And does this mean Ragnarok is going to appear in Thor: Ragnarok? Why would Marvel confuse the audience like that?

[SuperiorIronman]

http://www.flickeringmyth.com/2016/0...zergnet_837626

In an already stuffed movie, is the confirmation of Giant-Man a signal that they're going to bring in Clor (Clone Thor)? Or - even more ballsy - have the actual Thor do the killing?

Marvel has shown it has no problem killing heroes for shock value (Quicksilver). And Thor killing another hero could set up the next Thor actor (or, I suspect, actress) in Ragnarok. Hemmsworth's contract is up either way.

Ragnarok killed Goliath, not Giant Man. Scott was also dead at the time due to the Scarlet Witch.

[MindofShadow]

So many things...


1) Marvel has killed one hero in 11 movies and he was a shared character.

2) They aren't killing Paul Rudd

3) Ant-Man and the Wasp staring Lang and Hope is already confirmed

4) Hemsworth isn't in this movie

5) Comics =/= movies

6) Chlor hasn't even been hinted at once and it was one of the worst parts of CW

7) Hemsworth contract isn't up until after IW,it is not up after Ragnorok

8) no

9) no

10) lol no

[PhantomStranger]

Anyway, Chris Hemsworth is NOT even in Civil War..

Do we know this for certain? We keep getting these leaks about characters being in the film we didn't know about before...

1) Marvel has killed one hero in 11 movies and he was a shared character.

Still, the precedent has been set.

2) They aren't killing Paul Rudd

3) Ant-Man and the Wasp staring Lang and Hope is already confirmed

Could still be Pym as GM. A stretch, granted, but this IS a universe with Super Soldier Serums, all manner of weird science accidents, etc.

4) Hemsworth isn't in this movie

That we know of.

5) Comics =/= movies

So where did they get the CW concept from if not the CW comics.

6) Chlor hasn't even been hinted at once and it was one of the worst parts of CW

My point is that this might be a hint at Clor, and whatever you thought of it as part of the original story, that doesn't mean that they might not have decided to use it.

7) Hemsworth contract isn't up until after IW,it is not up after Ragnorok

Then we're back to it possibly being Clor, which would let the real Thor off the hook so he could still be in Ragnarok and IW.

[Holt]

So where did they get the CW concept from if not the CW comics.

They got the CONCEPT but not much else. The movie has already taken vast liberties with the original comic:

1) Thunderbolt Ross was not involved in the original comic.

2) Vision, Ant-Man, Hawkeye, and Scarlet Witch did not appear at all either, and two of them were dead when it happened.

3) Bucky was not the catalyst for the conflict and didn't really have much of a role aside from a one-shot.

4) Civil Was was about registering superheroes' secret identities, not trying to control the Avengers. The secret ID aspect doesn't even factor into the movie.

5) Black Panther was on Cap's side, not independent and fighting against him and Bucky.

The movie has very little to do with the comic other than the name and the premise of superheroes fighting each other. I don't know why anyone would assume the Clor vs. Black Goliath scene is a guarantee.

No one has said that Giant Man is Lang (that I know of). He wasn't in the book.

He's wearing the exact same modified Ant-Man suit that Scott Lang is wearing in set photos and promo art.




And the Lego toy even makes sure to refer to Giant-Man as "Ant-Man".

[adameastment]

I wouldn't take these releases as confirmation on characters appearing in the movies. Gray Hulk got a Funko figure before Avengers 2, Hyperion had a lego figure around the same time too. Did either of them turn up in the movie? No.

[tg1982]

Chris Hemsworth isn't even in the movie. And even if he was, he wouldn't be killing a character who has a sequel confirmed. Not really sure where you got this idea from. There is literally no proof to even hint at or suggest this.

[Holt]

I wouldn't take these releases as confirmation on characters appearing in the movies. Gray Hulk got a Funko figure before Avengers 2, Hyperion had a lego figure around the same time too. Did either of them turn up in the movie? No.

It's unlikely two separate two companies would make figures for an Avenger not appearing in the film in the film's toy line, though. And the Gray Hulk fiasco was eventually explained: He was in the script but at the last second the VFX team decided to keep him green. The idea was supposed to be that Gray Hulk was going to be the one fighting the Hulkbuster.

That said, Joblo claimed Scott Lang would become Giant-Man in Civil War last year, and the report where they made this claim has been proven right in every other area so far. It said that Hawkeye would have a new purple costume with one sleeve, that Falcon would get a robotic bird drone, and that War Machine would have a new suit of armor with a battering weapon.
http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/excl...alcon-more-807

[runguy]

http://www.flickeringmyth.com/2016/0...zergnet_837626

In an already stuffed movie, is the confirmation of Giant-Man a signal that they're going to bring in Clor (Clone Thor)? Or - even more ballsy - have the actual Thor do the killing?

Marvel has shown it has no problem killing heroes for shock value (Quicksilver). And Thor killing another hero could set up the next Thor actor (or, I suspect, actress) in Ragnarok. Hemmsworth's contract is up either way.

I had already heard the rumor that Giant Man would make an appearance and I think the comic book Chor storyline will not nor has it been hinted at being in the movie