If you were Storm what would you do differently? - Extraordinary X-Men & Uncanny X-Men spoilers

[Jumbo]

The title of the thread tells them not to reply.

Lemire is doing a good (not great but good overall) job. The sales of the book is doing well (being the flagship x-book helps) and the book definitely has the best x-men roster.

I agree with it. There are some people who do not like this comic, and they are all the time trying to arrange a provocation. I decided to ignore similar threads.

[VilotorioFabiano]

What ever is written is what she does. So if she's written as a poor leader, like she is being written, than she IS a poor leader.

Nah. Cyclops is being written as the worst person ever! Yet zero Cyclops fans are going along with it instead blaming it on writing... X23 fans keep saying the writing for her is horrible in ANXM as well... Should we tell them all that X23 in that comic is how she really is?

Also, a lot of the "solutions" posted instead of limbo sound lame as hell and/or wouldn't involve them fighting to stay home. Leaving earth? That's pretty much saying the XMEN have completely lost and are afraid to fight.

Is there somewhere safe they could've gone? Probably but how interesting would that be? Oh look they found a home where everyone is safe and nobody is under threat... Now lets go do our laundry! Doesn't really sell comics...

[xhx23x]

Nah. Cyclops is being written as the worst person ever! Yet zero Cyclops fans are going along with it instead blaming it on writing... X23 fans keep saying the writing for her is horrible in ANXM as well... Should we tell them all that X23 in that comic is how she really is?

There's a big difference with these arguments. For Cyclops they're telling us he did something but don't want to tell us what that something is. The writing is failing cause it's expecting us to trust it's horrible without any real indication or hint as to what it was. For Wolverine is a matter of two writers contradicting each other while writing the same character in roughly the same time frame. The writing fails because it is not being consistent.

Storm's situation right now is similar to Cyclops, with the exception we are being shown stuff and it's not making her look good.

[ExodusCloak]

Nah. Cyclops is being written as the worst person ever! Yet zero Cyclops fans are going along with it instead blaming it on writing... X23 fans keep saying the writing for her is horrible in ANXM as well... Should we tell them all that X23 in that comic is how she really is?

Also, a lot of the "solutions" posted instead of limbo sound lame as hell and/or wouldn't involve them fighting to stay home. Leaving earth? That's pretty much saying the XMEN have completely lost and are afraid to fight.

Is there somewhere safe they could've gone? Probably but how interesting would that be? Oh look they found a home where everyone is safe and nobody is under threat... Now lets go do our laundry! Doesn't really sell comics...

You realise they already left Earth right? Limbo is in another dimension. Being on the Blue Area of the Moon or the Dyson Sphere is still one teleport away.

[VilotorioFabiano]

You realise they already left Earth right? Limbo is in another dimension. Being on the Blue Area of the Moon or the Dyson Sphere is still one teleport away.

Good point. I was thinking Limbo is right underneath earth for a second. However, an out of earth base would require lots of secondary alien characters that would take away from the story.

Storm's situation right now is similar to Cyclops, with the exception we are being shown stuff and it's not making her look good.

Even prior to this Cyclops was being written more bad than good in a way. Remember how hated he was even before the Inhuman war after all. Cyclops fans weren't buying the rrrrrrrrhate against him...

[ExodusCloak]

Good point. I was thinking Limbo is right underneath earth for a second. However, an out of earth base would require lots of secondary alien characters that would take away from the story.

Like extra demon characters? The Dyson Sphere was pretty recluse. And the Blue Area of the moon is abandoned since the Inhumans ditched it.

[VilotorioFabiano]

Like extra demon characters? The Dyson Sphere was pretty recluse. And the Blue Area of the moon is abandoned since the Inhumans ditched it.

Extra demon characters that get killed off in seconds are not secondary characters. They're more like extras.

Ok, let's say they go to the Blue Area of the moon. That would be mutants taking over an area that they're not originally from, and while it may be mostly abandoned, seeing the XMEN take over would surely piss off other alien races. Kinda like the Inhumans invading earth because they need new members/more protection is rightfully trashed by Xfans. But let's say nobody in the galaxy has a problem with the XMEN being on the moon. Then the XMEN would just take every mutant there and leave them there peacefully while a few XMEN travel to earth to find some solution. Not very exciting if the mutant population is completely safe (except the few traveling back and forth to earth).

[Habis]

Also, a lot of the "solutions" posted instead of limbo sound lame as hell and/or wouldn't involve them fighting to stay home. Leaving earth? That's pretty much saying the XMEN have completely lost and are afraid to fight.

Is there somewhere safe they could've gone? Probably but how interesting would that be? Oh look they found a home where everyone is safe and nobody is under threat... Now lets go do our laundry! Doesn't really sell comics...

So you want to the X-Men to put their refuge, where they keep their non-combatants, their children and their sick safe in place where they have to fight for their lives? Fine. But they should give a believable justification for that! As now, the X-Men look like they are either dumb as bricks or sadists who want to see their children and teens eaten alive by demons!

And the X-Men could do plenty of fighting on Earth, seeking more mutants to rescue and trying to find a cure for the plague.

Ok, let's say they go to the Blue Area of the moon. That would be mutants taking over an area that they're not originally from, and while it may be mostly abandoned, seeing the XMEN take over would surely piss off other alien races. Kinda like the Inhumans invading earth because they need new members/more protection is rightfully trashed by Xfans. But let's say nobody in the galaxy has a problem with the XMEN being on the moon. Then the XMEN would just take every mutant there and leave them there peacefully while a few XMEN travel to earth to find some solution. Not very exciting if the mutant population is completely safe (except the few traveling back and forth to earth).

Nobody cares about the Blue Area. The Inhuman lived there for years, tha Asgardians live there now, and nobody feels invaded.

As a matter of fact, I think they should go even farther away, the Blue Area is still within Sentinel range of action. I would pick another of the safe dimensions or planets I proposed.

And as I said, even if you wouldn't like the X-Men making a choice that would keep mutants safe, you need a good reason for they not doing it, or they look like idiots.

[Galerion]

So you want to the X-Men to put their refuge, where they keep their non-combatants, their children and their sick safe in place where they have to fight for their lives? Fine. But they should give a believable justification for that! As now, the X-Men look like they are either dumb as bricks or sadists who want to see their children and teens eaten alive by demons?

And the X-Men could do plenty of fighting on Earth, seeking more mutants to rescue and trying to find a cure for the plague.

It certainly doesn't help that they are actually the only team hiding while the rest of the X-books is still on Earth and unaffected by the Terrigen Mist themselves for that matter and random cameos like Hellion to show are terrible and dangerous the mist is are certainly not enough to sell that. I find it makes the EXM team look like cowards in comparison.
Not that there is anything wrong with that. The less books that are involved in it the better it is after all. I think it's no coincidence that the strongest books are the ones with the least amount of Cyclops whining and/or Terrigen Mist stuff.

[FluffyCyclopsRLZ]

It certainly doesn't help that they are actually the only team hiding while the rest of the X-books is still on Earth and unaffected by the Terrigen Mist themselves for that matter and random cameos like Hellion to show are terrible and dangerous the mist is are certainly not enough to sell that. I find it makes the EXM team look like cowards in comparison.

Some of us have been saying it for months, the EXM crew's "Waaaah, conflict is baaaddd, we should just run away and pretend nothing's wrong because Scott and Emma are such big jerks and we're not!" shtick can only backfire in the long run.

Worst case scenario, we get spineless cowards. Best case scenario, we get shameless hypocrites. Or is it the other way around? Oh well.

[ExodusCloak]

Extra demon characters that get killed off in seconds are not secondary characters. They're more like extras.

Ok, let's say they go to the Blue Area of the moon. That would be mutants taking over an area that they're not originally from, and while it may be mostly abandoned, seeing the XMEN take over would surely piss off other alien races. Kinda like the Inhumans invading earth because they need new members/more protection is rightfully trashed by Xfans. But let's say nobody in the galaxy has a problem with the XMEN being on the moon. Then the XMEN would just take every mutant there and leave them there peacefully while a few XMEN travel to earth to find some solution. Not very exciting if the mutant population is completely safe (except the few traveling back and forth to earth).

That's kind of the point, the Inhumans only had to worry about that peeping tom the Watcher when they lived there. Rarely did an alien show up and that was for the most part the Avengers fault when one did.

As for being interesting. Well a story can be logical and interesting. It doesn't have to be one or the other. If you wanted drama move this he X-Men under New Attlian.

[ExodusCloak]

So an update Storm has given up hope and had a shot at the T-Cloud and didn't get rid of it. In story what is her problem?

[dragonmp93]

So an update Storm has given up hope and had a shot at the T-Cloud and didn't get rid of it. In story what is her problem?

She is on the side of the Inhumans.

[somacula]

So an update Storm has given up hope and had a shot at the T-Cloud and didn't get rid of it. In story what is her problem?

She's afraid of offending the inhumans

[AJpyro]

She's afraid of offending the inhumans

Okay. I can get her at least not destroying it at the moment since the x-men are not up to fighting a nation.

...Though it still begs the question of WTF happened to deciamte their numbers if Storm can block the cloud and they had SHiar tech lying around? I guess Forge wasn't around to make an anti-mist dome...no wait apparently a bunker is good enough to keep those rich mutant alive. And I seriously doubt a bunker can rival Forge tech.

Nevermind. Still stupid.