I simply don't like the amount and kind of humor that has been put into this. You know Im reading Spider-Woman and that book is probably even more wacky but I actually enjoy it. The thing is the book makes it clear right away that it's kinda wacky. I have no problem with comedy itself but in Angelas case it simply doesn't work. As Raye has been said this book was advertised as Angela conquering Hel to free her lover. A serious thing. I didn't know that being half-comedy comes with that package.
Again this is like having a Punisher book with fourth-wall breaking Deadpool as sidekick.
"This is me being reasonable"
And that's a fair opinion. I enjoy it, I think Bennett pulls it off, but I also recognize it's not for everyone, and that it won't work for everyone. It's a shame that Marvel's only current LGBT solo title (Hercules doesn't count until it's said on-panel that he sleeps with guys) is also one that has elements that turn off quite a few potential readers. I just object to classing it as a "straight comedy title." That's inaccurate. And I think some of the other criticisms have also been inaccurate or unfair, so I defend the books from those. But there are fair criticisms to be had, as well.
First off, Angels are a predominantly female society, so it makes sense that they would demonize men. Think of how male-dominated cultures have succubi and witches and other evil women. Second, it's not a "men are evil" message. We see three other men - Tyr, Balder and Skurge - and none of them are actually portrayed as evil. They're portrayed as loyal to their queen, with Balder even being portrayed as sympathetic to Angela. What's happening with that dialogue is Angela talking about what Angels say about those men. That is very, very different from commenting on what those men are actually like. She's not making accusations, she's saying what she was taught by her female-dominated, Asgard-hating people.
Honestly I think this review does a good job explaining what Angela is about. I love the Hel out of Angela.
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I had little interest in Angela until I read that panel.
Nah, it's amazing.
I can't believe I haven't been the series till now.
Marvel, if you're angering people that complain about "political correctness" and "SJWs", you're doing something right. Keep up the good work.
Glad I chose not to pull this book, those panels are asinine. I can't imagine why any editor would greenlight this nonsense.
Let's be honest, no one who would feel insulted by this was actually reading Angela. It's a book starring a female character in a lesbian relationship with a trans woman of colour. Do you honestly think there's a single MRA type reading this book? The people who bitch and moan about "SJWs" were never going to be reading this anyway, so who gives a damn about them?
Actually, my general rule is to not give a damn about anyone who bitches about "SJWs" in general. I hate the attitude behind that term. When I see that term used, I immediately conclude the person's opinions are wrong. Because they're approaching the issue from a wrong-headed position that I find loathesome.
As far as the scan goes, I enjoyed it. I thought it was really funny. I understand the people who object to it from a storytelling perspective; the people who think the meta-humour in the book is distracting and doesn't fit the general tone. Those criticisms are entirely valid. I think the meta-humour works, but humour is incredibly subjective, so I won't tell someone they're wrong for not enjoying a joke. So the people who dislike the moment from that standpoint? Sure, totally fair.
The people who are bitching about it from the "damn SJWs!!!1!one" standpoint? Nope. Those people, I will call wrong.
Like everything else on the internet, normally half of the complains comes from people that have never read/play/watch/listen it anyways. Like im pretty sure that if some post were to be taken at face value, several of the posters that are complaining about the way that Extraordinary X-men is being written havent purchase it.
To be clear, I didn't say it needed to be a "wacky sidekick". Just that she needs a sidekick. Angela's story, day one, is her unwavering adherence to the laws of an Angel. Nothing for nothing. It shackles her as a character considerably more so than any of those characters you listed (except maybe blackbolt ... but his need for another to at as his voice is a bit more literal). Without a regular character to added to the mix her storyline becomes 100% predictable and robotic. THATS why i say she needs a sidekick.
I completely get that "whacky" isn't your thing, even though I rather think its a great contrast to the over-seriousness that is Angela herself. I'm merely saying that Angela without _someone_ constantly at her side won't work. Oh and while I get the parallel of Angela to Punisher, Sera isn't even close to DeadPool's league or over the top. I'd say it's more akin to Xena and Gabrielle.
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Bor is actually a very vile character. See the New Mutants crossover annual by Gillen.
Angela is currently my fave book. Its more interesting than a Red Sonja knockoff would be.
Which is ironic given Bemnet is now writing Red Sonja.
Sera makes the book. Shes a fourth wall breaking wordplay vixen and I love it.
I also follow Bennett on twitter and shes a delight.
Yes theres comedy but the story of Angela and Sera is dark and serious, filled with gravitas.
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Call me when Angela starts reciting from the scum manifesto.