this is not the character i signed up for

[BohemiaDrinker]

lol!

i actually think this thread should be dedicated to the wally west fans out there.

Yeah, there's no arguing that we've got the worst deal.

Then again, it's not necessarily a problem brought up by the Reboot.

[Lightning Rider]

Yeah, there's no arguing that we've got the worst deal.

Then again, it's not necessarily a problem brought up by the Reboot.

I mean, I could have lived with Barry as the main man, before they killed Nora and imprisoned Henry, and gave the Flash its worst run in decades..

[The Flash]

Definitely Wally West.

Well, I'm a Flash fan.

So, you know; dead parents, racial stereotypes, jerk criminal from the future. Yeah, I feel that way.

I mean, I could have lived with Barry as the main man, before they killed Nora and imprisoned Henry, and gave the Flash its worst run in decades..

Quoted for truth

[FishyZombie]

Harley Quinn is one, I don't necessarily hate what her character has become, but she's got little in common with the one I got introduced to. Oh and literally all the Flashes. Barry's mommy issues, Wally becoming a stereotype, Jay's a kid who got his powers from a god and the less said about Bart, the better.

[Herowatcher]

Same here.

As you say, characters always change. But so many seem stripped of their core. The point of loving a character is something about their personality being distinct to them. How they sound and act are what make the character. That might change somewhat depending on the context of the story; being more or less serious, for example. But, at a certain point, they stop being the same character and become someone else.

The New 52 is just rife with these complaints. Forget continuity and origin stories. Somehow DC ended up contradicting the core of so many characters.

So true.
I feel those holding the reigns to the DC characters today have mismanaged them for quite some time now.
Here's something for them to read to re-familiarize themselves with what they've been entrusted with.

[FlashingSabre]

Exhibit A

This is Raven




Exhibit B

This is Raven's crazy twin, Pigeon.

Thumbs up for this guy.

[dancj]

anyone here feels that the character that they used to follow before has undergone change so much that said character is barely recognizable.

Wally West.

I really don't mind though. I mind that he's a terrible racial stereotype, but I don't mind that he's not the character I read about since the 90s. Things change.

[Rod G]

Exhibit A

This is Raven




Exhibit B

This is Raven's crazy twin, Pigeon.

Exhibit A:
This WAS Raven.


Exhibit B:
THIS is Raven now.


Deal with it.

[Doctor Know]

Exhibit A:
This WAS Raven.


Exhibit B:
THIS is Raven now.


Deal with it.

@bold

[Lightning Rider]

PSA: We will continue to refuse to "deal with" our favorite characters being **** on. Thank you.

[Outside_85]

Exhibit A:
This WAS Raven.


Exhibit B:
THIS is Raven now.


Deal with it.

So basically you dont think people have a right to not like dramatic changes to characters they've been fans of for years?

I wonder if you would complain if an artist decided to repaint something you own without asking first?

[Doctor Kent Nelson]

So true.
I feel those holding the reigns to the DC characters today have mismanaged them for quite some time now.
Here's something for them to read to re-familiarize themselves with what they've been entrusted with.

Amen... and it seems like DC is always doing a Poochie!

[napolid]

They've marginalised her role as "God of war". (That made no sense.)
Brought back donna troy
Started using the classic rouge gallery. Not just gods all the time.

If we can get rid of the superman romance, and give her a proper relationship we'd be cooking....

"On paper" you are absolutely correct, in practice she is weak and pathetic.

[Doctor Kent Nelson]

I agree, I basically dropped DC when the new 52 struck. Specifically, Dr. Fate is mess as is the Spectre. Wonder Woman - same. I agree on Alan Scott - being powered by the green beans and green peppers of Mother Earth - flat out stupid.

Redoing classic origins as compared to tuning them just turns me off.

Simple DC... don't @#$% with the legends!



Hence the reason Alex Ross won't touch DC anymore either.

[Starchild]

How exactly is Doctor Fate a 'mess?' Is it because it's a brand new character, a POC to be exact. And not Kent Nelson?