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    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Sure, out of all the team members to lobotomize and rape, she kept picking the black one. Emma Frost is a racist.

    When was the last time Emma destroyed a powerful white man instead of sleeping with him for more "power"?
    Now it's beyond stupid or you are just trolling.

    Insulting Emma may make you feel better but I'll stop wasting time on this.
    Last edited by airdreams; 06-18-2014 at 06:33 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by airdreams View Post
    Now it's beyond stupid or you are just trolling.

    Insulting Emma may make you feel better but I'll stop wasting time on this.
    Insulting Emma? Emma Frost raped Storm and she slept with a powerful white man who was destroying an African Nation while he was attempting genocide. I am merely stating facts about your favorite character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    Wrong, Mastermind used Emma's device to enter Jeans mind undetected and use her own fantasies against her he even says so (As does the omniscient narrator). Additionally she also admits to enjoying the sordid fantasies.

    Uncanny X-Men 129




    Uncanny X-Men 130
    All you have is the "word" of Jean's rapist who is using the GHB provided by Emma Frost, that "she wants it". That is incredibly sexist and questionable as "evidence".

    Furthermore, why is Jean Grey even a factor? I know Emma fans love comparing her to Jean, but we are judging Emma here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    All you have is the "word" of Jean's rapist who is using the GHB provided by Emma Frost, that "she wants it". That is incredibly sexist and questionable as "evidence".

    Furthermore, why is Jean Grey even a factor? I know Emma fans love comparing her to Jean, but we are judging Emma here.
    Claremont canon.


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    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Furthermore, why is Jean Grey even a factor? I know Emma fans love comparing her to Jean, but we are judging Emma here.
    That's like, the complete opposite of what actually happens on this board. Whenever there's a Jean-hate thread go and look for how many of the posters there are Emma fans. Now try counting the number of Jean fans in threads like this one.

    I believe Jean was brought up because "coincidentally" a good portion of the people posting on this thread happen to be Jean fans, though I agree it was unnecessary. It's all in good fun anyway.

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    Edited, stop feeding the trolls.
    Last edited by airdreams; 06-18-2014 at 08:08 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by worstblogever View Post
    That was me. The classic "Dirty Deeds" series of threads. Emma's list was spectacularly big. It takes more than one post. Brace yourselves.

    • Attempting to blackmail her own father over affairs with his mistress? (Emma Frost #4)
    • Using her powers to cheat at poker at an offshore casino? (Emma Frost #8)
    • Heading back to the same casino and trying to steal from it by making an empty chip tray appear as if it had five thousand dollars in chips on it? (Emma Frost #9)
    • Allowing herself to be “kidnapped” to pay off her first boyfriend, Troy Killkelly's debts to Lucien Goff with the “ransom” paid for by her father? (Emma Frost #10)
    • Using her powers to get the kidnappers to kill each other, or leave them to be arrested, while collecting the $160,000 “ransom” her father paid, and keeping it? (Emma Frost #12)
    • Kissing her former high school teacher and college professor, Ian Kendall, knowing that he was romantically involved with her roommate, Christine McDermott? (Emma Frost #17)
    • Using her powers to put her first mentor, Astrid Bloom, into a coma? (Emma Frost #18)*
    • Helping defend Ian Kendall from being charged with improper relationships with a student, by using her powers to make Christine McDermott to turn into a raving lunatic? (Emma Frost #18)
    • Using faked invitations to move among society’s elite, and pick business secrets out of their minds? (Generation X: Minus One)
    • Telepathically restoring the mind of the Dark Beast, and in spite of seeing the horrible acts he’d done, aiding him with her growing fortune, and setting him up a new lab to help her advance her powers and provide her with advanced technology? (Generation X: Minus One)
    • Psychically assaulting an audience at the Hellfire Club who booed her on stage? (revealed in X-Men Origins: Emma Frost #1)
    • After auditioning to be a Hellfire Club dancer, getting cosmetic surgery and using her sexual wiles as the “Perfect Ice Queen. The Dominatrix from Hell” to rise in the Club’s ranks? ((New X-Men (vol. 1) #139, Classic X-Men #34) *
    • Deliberately bankrupting her Hellfire Club rival, Bianca LaNiege? (revealed in Generation X #48 )
    • Using her powers to psionically force the White King of the Hellfire Club’s Council of the Chosen to shoot each member of the council, including Paris Seville, his own White Queen, and then himself? (Classic X-Men #7)*
    • Allowing Sebastian Shaw to brutally murder her two friends, Rebecca and Anne, not even “bothering to care” to suggest that one or the other be spared? (revealed in Uncanny X-Men (vol. 1) #531)
    • Trying to recruit Kitty Pryde out from under Professor X and the X-Men, and then ambushing them while they tried to recruit her in turn? (Uncanny X-Men #129)
    • Working in tandem with Mastermind to try and corrupt the Phoenix into becoming the new Black Queen of the Hellfire Club? (Uncanny X-Men #127-132) *
    • Psychically torturing Storm, and attempting to completely mind-wipe her? (Uncanny X-Men #131)
    • Telepathically forcing the Prydes to transfer Kitty to the Massachusetts Academy? (Uncanny X-Men #151)
    • Using a device to switch bodies with Storm, and offering her new body immediately to Sebastian Shaw, passionately kissing him? (Uncanny X-Men #151-152)*
    • Kidnapping the New Mutants, and reneging on a supposed deal to grant them their freedom if Jetstream could beat Cannonball in a competition over who had better mastery over their flight powers? (Uncanny X-Men #180, New Mutants (vol. 1) #15-17)
    • Recruiting Angelica Jones, Firestar, to the Massachusetts Academy, and deceiving her into thinking her powers were out of control by staging several “accidents”, including burning down the barn where her horse, Butter Rum was being kept, killing it? - ( Firestar #1-4)*
    • Ordering the death of Randall Chase, and trying to frame Selene for it, in the hopes that Firestar would use her powers to avenge him, and kill the Black Queen for her? (Firestar #1-4)
    • Psi-blasting and then choking Empath, one of her students? (New Mutants (vol. 1) #26)
    • Kidnapping the New Mutants a second time, using Empath to convince Magneto to release them to her custody? (New Mutants (vol. 1) #38-39)
    • Asking the Snow Valley police call in the Avengers to detain Magneto by claiming he was "trying to kidnap her students”? (New Mutants (vol. 1) #40)
    • Having Empath influence the emotions of Magma to get her to join the Hellions so she could use the relationship to better cement ties with Magma’s father and further her business interests in the Amazon? (New Mutants (vol. 1) #53-54, 57, 62)
    • Manipulating Magneto and Sebastian Shaw into a feud, and then voting Shaw out of the Hellfire Club after he lost a duel to Magneto? (New Mutants (vol. 1) #74-75)
    • Trying to settle a bet with Selene by competing for the affections of Chet Andrews, a Hellfire Club Guard. Then, when trying to use her powers to their fullest to sway his heart at the same time as Selene, causing his head to literally explode in confusion about which one to choose? (X-Men Unlimited (vol. 1) #33)
    • Tipping off Freedom Force about how Firestar still needed to sign the Mutant Registration Act?(Marvel Comics Presents (vol. 1) #78)
    • Using her powers to switch bodies with Iceman? (Uncanny X-Men #311-314)
    • Kicking Leech, a child, in the head to be able to access her powers when being threatened by Gene Nation? (Generation X #7)
    • Using her powers to get the police to forget Generation X, and allow them to take Synch back into custody? (Generation X #15)
    • Using her powers to force Banshee to obey her command to land? (Generation X #16)
    • Using her powers to force Banshee to step out of the door of a plane in mid-flight, then kidnapping half of Generation X, taking them to Canada, and trying to keep them psionically docile while Onslaught attacked? (Generation X #18-19)
    • Telepathically knocking out Banshee in an attempt to barter with Emplate and give him Penance to feed upon in exchange for the locations of the rest of Generation X? (Generation X #30-31)
    • Punching Banshee in the face to assert dominance at the Mass. Academy? (Generation X #34)
    • Killing her sister Adrienne, then mindwiping, or possibly killing the investigating detective to get away with it? (Generation X #70, 75)*
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    Quote Originally Posted by yogaflame View Post
    Emma was created as a villain, and as such was one of the X-Men's best(especially for the New Mutants). That's not a condiment, that's her integral substance.
    I very much enjoyed her villain days, but she is far from being one of the best. Her first few appearances you would think she had a hot lesbo crush on both Storm and Kitty with the way those two were always involved in her plans (Constantly kept recruiting Kitty as her student and probably wanted to play with herself in Storm's body.) She was really nothing more than a mustache twirling villain her first couple appearances. You can tell she wasn't someone that was going to be on that road for too long.

    Though I will say I liked her neutrality in New Mutants. It showed that even though she's ruthless, Emma still cares for the young students.

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    I don't think Emma is a racist, I think she look down to virtually everybody....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Project Initiative Cascada View Post
    I very much enjoyed her villain days, but she is far from being one of the best. Her first few appearances you would think she had a hot lesbo crush on both Storm and Kitty with the way those two were always involved in her plans (Constantly kept recruiting Kitty as her student and probably wanted to play with herself in Storm's body.) She was really nothing more than a mustache twirling villain her first couple appearances. You can tell she wasn't someone that was going to be on that road for too long.

    Though I will say I liked her neutrality in New Mutants. It showed that even though she's ruthless, Emma still cares for the young students.
    I completely agree, I think Claremont changed her in New Mutants but she was your C-list villain back in the day. I sort of liked that the Hellfire Club were just businessmen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    I completely agree, I think Claremont changed her in New Mutants but she was your C-list villain back in the day. I sort of liked that the Hellfire Club were just businessmen.
    Yeah I don't think he intended for the club just to be a wealthy and classy spin on the X-Men's world, but other than that their biggest plot was trying to cage the Phoenix for themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by perdid06 View Post
    I don't think Emma is a racist, I think she look down to virtually everybody....
    She's anything but racist. All of classes of students (From the Hellions to Gen. X to New X-Men) had a good mix of diversity. I think its more that she used to feel more superior to humans, but than again name me another X-Men villain that never felt this way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Project Initiative Cascada View Post
    I think its more that she used to feel more superior to humans, but than again name me another X-Men villain that never felt this way?
    Leper Queen and her Sapien league. They were protecting humans from mutant spawn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Project Initiative Cascada View Post
    She's anything but racist. All of classes of students (From the Hellions to Gen. X to New X-Men) had a good mix of diversity. I think its more that she used to feel more superior to humans, but than again name me another X-Men villain that never felt this way?
    Human and mutant alike..and aliens too...remember "exclusive breeding"

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    Quote Originally Posted by vitamin View Post
    Leper Queen and her Sapien league. They were protecting humans from mutant spawn.
    Haha that's right, keep forgetting there are some basic human villains too sides the Sentinels.

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