Did azzarello base the n52 amazons off of the undersea amazons of the golden age stories?

[Lex Luthor]

they had slaves
were matriarchs
and barbaric
and twisted
and wonder woman is clearly stronger/better than all of them
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[Stanlos]

It reminded me of something more recent: GOD OF WAR video game storyline with Kratos

[Dr. Poison]

they had slaves
were matriarchs
and barbaric
and twisted
and wonder woman is clearly stronger/better than all of them
Capture.jpg

Isn't that Queen Clea and the Atlanteans?

[Lex Luthor]

Isn't that Queen Clea and the Atlanteans?

yeah the undersea amazons and the atlanteans are the same basically

[Dr. Poison]

yeah the undersea amazons and the atlanteans are the same basically

Thanks. All the more reason for the New 52 Queen Clea to try and replace Diana as the Queen of the above water Amazons.

[Bosch]

Probably not. Barbaric Amazons are a standard cultural motif. The Amazons in the old Hercules show from the '90s were similar. And all Amazons are, by definition, going to be matriarchal. That word just means "headed by women."

[Lex Luthor]

but did they have slaves? I've never known the amazons to have slaves before and I wouldn't think its a misstep to say Azzarello read golden age wonder woman before writing her but then again i dont know

[Bosch]

Yeah. Even in some of the more lurid and horrifying stories in Greek mythology, Amazons kept gimped men as slaves.

Marston's deal was taking that myth and inverting it. But that's still the most common version of them out there.

[Outside_85]

but did they have slaves? I've never known the amazons to have slaves before and I wouldn't think its a misstep to say Azzarello read golden age wonder woman before writing her but then again i dont know

According to himself, Azzarello didn't do a lot of background reading before he began writing. So it's unlikely he would know there were underwater Amazons.

His Amazons were based on the mythological version but added a dash of the trappings to make them Wonder Woman's.

[Vaffrey]

they had slaves
were matriarchs
and barbaric
and twisted
and wonder woman is clearly stronger/better than all of them
Capture.jpg

They weren't Amazons. They were Atlanteans.

In other words, you might metaphorically refer to them as Amazons, because they were a female-dominant society, but in the comics they weren't Amazons. The Amazons were a distinct society living on Paradise Island. This was just a place that happened to be ruled by physically strong women.

And I don't think Azarello was inspired by that or anything from WW's past. He showed basically zero disregard for anything and everything that came before.

[Lex Luthor]

According to himself, Azzarello didn't do a lot of background reading before he began writing. So it's unlikely he would know there were underwater Amazons.

His Amazons were based on the mythological version but added a dash of the trappings to make them Wonder Woman's.

wow i was at least giving him benefit of the doubt could you imagine batman writers being allowed to write him and not having read his comics before