DC's May 2016 Variants Celebrate 52 Issues of New 52

[WillieMorgan]

Also can't we just celebrate that these book saw 50 plus issues????????

We won't be seeing anymore 50 plus issues for "potentially" 5-6 years from DC proper.

The only books at Marvel that could see #50 are Star Wars and Darth Vader, none of the ANAD certainly won't get to see that big of a #.

Hell, none of what the next Marvel relaunch will be won't get to see #50.

Absolutely. When it comes to these variant covers I prefer the original #1's in every case. The fact that certain titles were capable of reaching 52 issues in the modern market is well worth shouting about though.

[The Darknight Detective]

I'm comparing sales figures from recent months to figures from 2010, just before the reboot. Their current sales are actually lower now than they were before the reboot, and theyre still dropping. Truth is the New 52 isn't bringing in many new readers (the DC You books were mostly failures) and continues to alienate and drive away longtime fans. The DCU just doesn't work without pre-Flashpoint continuity to build off of.

You're 100% wrong. Go to the Sales & Estimate Discussion thread and you can see what you're stating is just not so. Even factoring in the 4x increase in digital sales since 2011, floppy sales are still greater. In fact, I'm at the point now that saying the New 52 is selling less than the end of the DCU is trolling.

EDIT: Here are the numbers.

2015 - 24,387,995 estimated units
2014 - 26,836,455 estimated units
2013 - 28,184,085 estimated units
2012 - 29,602,125 estimated units
2011 - 26,522,201 estimated units
2010 - 23,528,000 estimated units
2009 - 24,126,336 estimated units
2008 - 25,760,378 estimated units
2007 - 29,597,217 estimated units
2006 - 30,243,575 estimated units
2005 - 26,995,698 estimated units
2004 - 23,895,322 estimated units
2003 - 22,344,120 estimated units
2002 - 20,687,488 estimated units - Dan Didio joins DC as VP of Editorial.
2001 - 21,220,332 estimated units
2000 - 23,243,656 estimated units
1999 - 25,141,760 estimated units
1998 - 22,869,060 estimated units
1997 - 26,323,968 estimated units

[Confuzzled]

Why not the new duds for Wonder Woman?

That Ben Oliver Action variant is the first time I've seen New 52 Supes drawn like Henry Cavill so much.

[Mister Ferro]

Well, if DC's double-shipping Batman and Superman like rumors say, it'll be more like 2-3 years.

Haha I forgot about that!

[Atlanta96]

I was wrong about sales being "already" lower that before the reboot, but in a year or so, they undoubtedly will be! They're barely higher at the moment! DC sales have been dropping since 2013, my point about the New 52 failing is still valid.

[JBatmanFan05]

I was wrong about sales being "already" lower that before the reboot, but in a year or so, they undoubtedly will be! They're barely higher at the moment! DC sales have been dropping since 2013, my point about the New 52 failing is still valid.

I agree. That's probably where Rebirth is coming from.

I hope these variants celebrate the real and true end of New 52.

[GlennSimpson]

I was wrong about sales being "already" lower that before the reboot, but in a year or so, they undoubtedly will be! They're barely higher at the moment! DC sales have been dropping since 2013, my point about the New 52 failing is still valid.

How long do sales have to stay higher than 2010 in order for the new52 to have qualified as a success, in your mind?

[Sacred Knight]

Take a look at DC sales figures. They're having no success bringing in new readers, and longtime fans who hate the New 52 (and their money) are being driven away. Pre-Flashpoint DC isn't as hopeless as you think it is!

No, it is. Its entirely hopeless. Superhero comics were dying before the New 52. And I'm not talking just DC, Marvel too. Dying. Let that sink in. There's absolutely NO benefit to reverting back. If the current comics are not your deal, more than fair. But you're exaggerating its negative impact. In fact its an outright falsehood. In the end the impact was positive, even if they couldn't keep up the momentum.

With that said keep an eye out for possibly more multiverse titles in the lineup after Rebirth. If my hunch is right and that happens, it could be there that you might get a pre-FP feel title. But the "main" continuity will not be reverting back.

[JBatmanFan05]

How long do sales have to stay higher than 2010 in order for the new52 to have qualified as a success, in your mind?

How about a nice round number like 5 billion years?

[Atlanta96]

How long do sales have to stay higher than 2010 in order for the new52 to have qualified as a success, in your mind?

Uhh...considering DC sales are going down at the moment, and unless Rebirth increases overall sales (considering the last 2 DC events didn't, it probably won't) sales WILL be lower than 2010 in about a year. I think it's safe to say the New 52 has proven to be a failure!

[Atlanta96]

How long do sales have to stay higher than 2010 in order for the new52 to have qualified as a success, in your mind?

Uhh...considering DC sales are going down at the moment, and unless Rebirth increases overall sales (considering the last 2 DC events didn't, it probably won't) sales WILL be lower than 2010 in about a year. I think it's safe to say the New 52 has proven to be a failure!

[AlexanderLuthor]

Michael Janin drawing Supes. Yes, please! Not PC I guess, but I still think March's Catwoman cover is one of the most gorgeous I've seen

[Sacred Knight]

The Catwoman cover was great. Don't be afraid of the SJW's coming out of the woodwork to try and label you evil. It was a well-drawn, sexy image. There's nothing wrong with appreciating that.

[AlexanderLuthor]

Uhh...considering DC sales are going down at the moment, and unless Rebirth increases overall sales (considering the last 2 DC events didn't, it probably won't) sales WILL be lower than 2010 in about a year. I think it's safe to say the New 52 has proven to be a failure!

Given the trajectory of pre-52 they may have been down to 15 million this year with no New 52. So, 5 years of MUCH better sales is a failure? Ok

[The Darknight Detective]

I was wrong about sales being "already" lower that before the reboot, but in a year or so, they undoubtedly will be! They're barely higher at the moment! DC sales have been dropping since 2013, my point about the New 52 failing is still valid.

You may be right that the numbers will fall. None of us us can know that for sure. Still, the numbers would have to be much lower than what they were in 2010 for the New 52 to be worse than the dying DCU. For example, 2015 and 2009 appear to be basically identical, but last year was a significantly better year for DC because of the much larger digital share the company has now.