View Poll Results: Who is Marvel's lead female?

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  • BLACK WIDOW [Natasha Romanova]

    49 7.54%
  • CAPTAIN MARVEL [Carol Danvers]

    126 19.38%
  • ELEKTRA [Elektra Natchios]

    5 0.77%
  • INVISIBLE WOMAN [Sue Richard]

    55 8.46%
  • KITTY PRYDE

    22 3.38%
  • JEAN GREY

    89 13.69%
  • MYSTIQUE [Raven Darkholme]

    6 0.92%
  • ROGUE [Anna Marie]

    43 6.62%
  • PSYLOCKE [Elisabeth ‘Betsy’ Braddock]

    10 1.54%
  • SCARLET WITCH [Wanda Maximoff]

    29 4.46%
  • SHE-HULK [Jennifer Walters]

    37 5.69%
  • SPIDERWOMAN [Jessica Drew]

    10 1.54%
  • STORM [Queen Ororo Monroe]

    129 19.85%
  • WHITE QUEEN [Emma Frost]

    29 4.46%
  • WASP [Janet vanDyne]

    11 1.69%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kieran_Frost View Post
    I've now updates the lists of solo, minis and all female teams... would love more suggestions, if anyone can think of any.

    Also... SO happy this thread is seeing so much love, Marvel has created such an amazing amount of female heroes, they needed celebrating!!!
    What about adding the Curse of the Mutants Storm/Gambit One-Shot to Ororo's list?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WINDRIDER View Post
    What about adding the Curse of the Mutants Storm/Gambit One-Shot to Ororo's list?
    Ooo, I liked that one!


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    Oh and the X-Men: Sword Of Braddocks one-shot, starring Psylocke, written by Claremont. A very fun read with gorgeous art from Scott Clark(RIP).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryo View Post
    IMO, Storm is definitely the representative female face of Marvel in pop culture for her appearance in other media besides the comics, like cartoons, video games, movies. Even if a person has never read a comic in life, it's likely that, even then, knows who is Storm. She is a global character.

    After her, I would say Jean Grey, Invisible Woman and Rogue.
    Storm is certainly among the most recognizable female superheroes around. Her ethnicity combined with her hair color make her nearly impossible to confuse with anybody else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryo View Post
    IMO, Storm is definitely the representative female face of Marvel in pop culture for her appearance in other media besides the comics, like cartoons, video games, movies. Even if a person has never read a comic in life, it's likely that, even then, knows who is Storm. She is a global character.
    I 100% agree it's Storm. As you say, between movies, games and comics... she really has everyone beat. Not only that she's been a leader FOR DECADES! Unlike Black Widow who once lead the whole Avengers (now can't even get to lead the spy team when she's supposed to be the world's greatest spy) is just sad, Storm is still leading a team(s). After Storm... it's hard, I'd say either Black Widow (due to the movies), Captain Marvel (because Marvel REEEALLY want it to be her -- but it's just not) or Jean Grey (she has been dead for a long time in comics, though).



    BUT what I love is I can see the arguement for so many. Elektra has had her own movie (none of the other ladies have). She-Hulk has the longest running 616 comic of any lady. Storm's a leader across the board, Jean Grey has been the focal female of the X-films, has one of the biggest X-storylines of all time (one of the biggest of comics, even). Invisible Woman is the lead female of the FF (the FIRST family). Wasp is a founding Avenger, former leader (not in many other mediums though). Marvel has done a good job creating many awesome females, now they just need to use them more (and they are -- so kudos Marvel!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by RLAAMJR. View Post
    Kieran Frost, don't forget:
    Storm vol 2 (2006) #1-6 by Eric Jerome Dickey
    No, I think that one can be left off, considering what a piss-poor series it was. Despite the name, it wasn't a Storm story. It was a Black Panther story. Throughout the entire 6-issue mini, Storm was weak and helpless, existing only to be rescued by Panther over and over and over. It was insulting to her character, and came across, quite frankly, as misogynistic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Hound View Post
    Hiya Kieran. Love the thread.
    I think you're missing Chris Claremont's MechaniX and Ellis's Pryde and Wisdom in your Duet section.
    And because I love the fact it survived, here's a letter from John Byrne to Chris Claremont, discussing her design.
    I liked Mekanix for using Karma. Karma's always gotten so little love. She deserves better. Vietnamese, lesbian, rape survivor, caretaker for her younger siblings, amputee - she's so diverse it's insane. And yet still she seldom shows up anywhere. Even Marjorie Liu couldn't really think of much to do with her.

    Quote Originally Posted by tsaimelemoni View Post
    Rios actually did Elektra's one shot for Shadowland.
    I forgot about that. It was gorgeous. And she's only gotten better since then. So she should do an issue or arc of the current series.

    Quote Originally Posted by RLAAMJR. View Post
    I didn't know about "The Aladdin Effect" until you posted it here and informing that Storm is there. I've checked the review about it and it was given a poor D+ but I actually like it based on the images shown on this link: http://www.supermegamonkey.net/chron...vel_grap.shtml

    Thank you so much.
    I've read it. It was pretty OK. Not bad, not great, just OK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiamatty View Post
    No, I think that one can be left off, considering what a piss-poor series it was. Despite the name, it wasn't a Storm story. It was a Black Panther story. Throughout the entire 6-issue mini, Storm was weak and helpless, existing only to be rescued by Panther over and over and over. It was insulting to her character, and came across, quite frankly, as misogynistic.
    Agreed. I was so happy when the Amazing X-Men annual #1 restored the original story of how Storm and BP met vs the travesty that Dickey wrote.
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    This one's debatable but I'll let others make the case for or against.

    Phoenix Endsong. Your mileage will definitely vary, and Jean while seemingly the highlight isn't in it quite that much. But she steals the spotlight whenever she shows, and is pretty much the reason it sold as well as the head X title at the time. The follow up Warsong didn't do as well.

    Also notable in that it's drawn by Greg Porn-Face Land and even he couldn't make Jean look cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kieran_Frost View Post
    I 100% agree it's Storm. As you say, between movies, games and comics... she really has everyone beat. Not only that she's been a leader FOR DECADES! Unlike Black Widow who once lead the whole Avengers (now can't even get to lead the spy team when she's supposed to be the world's greatest spy) is just sad, Storm is still leading a team(s). After Storm... it's hard, I'd say either Black Widow (due to the movies), Captain Marvel (because Marvel REEEALLY want it to be her -- but it's just not) or Jean Grey (she has been dead for a long time in comics, though).



    BUT what I love is I can see the arguement for so many. Elektra has had her own movie (none of the other ladies have). She-Hulk has the longest running 616 comic of any lady. Storm's a leader across the board, Jean Grey has been the focal female of the X-films, has one of the biggest X-storylines of all time (one of the biggest of comics, even). Invisible Woman is the lead female of the FF (the FIRST family). Wasp is a founding Avenger, former leader (not in many other mediums though). Marvel has done a good job creating many awesome females, now they just need to use them more (and they are -- so kudos Marvel!)
    Well said.

    And love this new pic courtesy of Valificent....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ariwl1 View Post
    This one's debatable but I'll let others make the case for or against.

    Phoenix Endsong. Your mileage will definitely vary, and Jean while seemingly the highlight isn't in it quite that much. But she steals the spotlight whenever she shows, and is pretty much the reason it sold as well as the head X title at the time. The follow up Warsong didn't do as well.

    Also notable in that it's drawn by Greg Porn-Face Land and even he couldn't make Jean look cheap.

    Jean Grey would be the unanimous choice for Marvel's leading lady if they had kept her alive this entire time. She's got boundless star quality without being so quirky as to be relegated to some sideshow oddity. And even though she is most famous for going "dark" she spends the vast majority of her time as the quintessential good girl with a positive and uplifting air about her, something which is desperately lacking in modern comics. While she has plenty of sex appeal, she always keeps it classy and never vulgar, there's a real nobility to the character in every sense of the word.

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    Daughters of Dragon (2006) (6 issues)
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    Ghost Rider v7 (2011) (9 issues)

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    White Tiger (2007) (6 issues)

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    I'm getting more and more interested in white tiger lately. I wonder what sales would be like if they gave her another series with a really great writer?

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    On your comics list dont forget:
    Firestar (1986) 1-4 by Tom DeFalco & Marie Severin
    Ultra Girl (1996) 1-3 B. Kesel & Kirk
    Marvel Chillers featuring Tigra (1975) #3-7 Isabella/Claremont & Meuginout/Byrne/Tuska
    Tigra (2002) 1-4 Christina Z & Deodato
    The Cat (1972) 1-4 Linda Fite/Roy Thomas & M. Severin
    Shanna The She-Devil (1972) 1-5 Gerber/Seuling & Andru
    Shanna The She-Devil The Killing Season (2005) Cho & Cho
    Shanna The She-Devil: Survival of the Fittest (2007) Grey/Palmiotti & Evans
    Patsy Walker: Hellcat (2008) 1-4 K. Immonen & LaFuentes
    Hellcat (2000) 1-3 Englehart & Breyfogle
    X-Men: Phoenix (Rachel Grey) (1999) 1-3 JF Moore & P. Alixe
    Blink (2001) 1-4 Lobdell & McCarthy
    Bloodstone (Elsa) (2001) 1-4 Abnett/Lanning & M. Lopez
    Dakota North (1986) 1-5 M. Thomases & Salmon
    Daughters of the Dragon (2006) 1-6 Palmiotti/Grey & Evans
    Felicia Hardy Black Cat: (1994) 1-4 Cavalieri/Kavanaugh & Wildman
    Amazing Spiderman Presents Black Cat (2010) 1-4 Van Meter & Pulido
    Journey Into Mystery Black Widow (1996) 517-519 Lobdell & Green


    One Shots:
    Firestar (2010) Sean McKeever & Emma Rios
    Valkyrie (1997) Wein/DeMatties & Clark/Raimondi
    Valkyrie (2010) Glass & Winslade
    Daughters of the Dragon Deadly Hands (repints back up strip) (2005) Claremont & Rogers
    Dazzler (2010) McCann & Adrofsky
    Spitfire (2010) Cornell & L. West

    Duets:
    Psylocke & Archangel Crimson Dawn (1997) 1-4 Raab & Larocca
    Spider-Man Black Cat The Evil that Men Do (2002) K. Smith & Dodsons
    Wolverine & Black Cat Claws (2006) 1-3 Palmiotti/Grey & Linsner
    Wolverine & Black Cat Claws II (2011) 1-3 Palmiotti/Grey & linsner
    Fury & Black Widow Death Duty (OGN) (1995) Ridout & Adlard
    Thing & She-Hulk The Long Night (2002) Dezago & Hitch
    Adventures of Cyclops & Phoenix (1994) 1-4 Lobdell & Ha
    Further Adv. of Cyclops & Phoenix (1996) 1-4 Milligan & Leon
    X-Men True Friends Wolverine/Rachel Grey/Kitty Pryde (1999) 1-3 Claremont & Leonardi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silvermoth View Post
    I'm getting more and more interested in white tiger lately. I wonder what sales would be like if they gave her another series with a really great writer?
    Could be good, and it was nice to see her name touted in the poll for Rosario Dawson's 'DD' character!

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